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Thank God we didn't get the coach I wanted

Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4776 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:07 pm
I was pissed when the Tom Herman thing didn't work out, and when our former athletic director so quickly pivoted to O.

Since then look at the great job Coach Orgeron has done. Meanwhile Tom Herman is 23-14 overall and 16-10 in an underwhelming league.

I was dead wrong and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Thank you Coach Orgeron for making LSU great again.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26178 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:12 pm to
I never liked Tom Herman. In fact he always seemed creepy.

First and foremost I was on the Jimbo train. He's a great coach and was a great OC at LSU. Then, I was hoping we'd get one of the young Turks like PJ Fleck, or a proven offensive mind like Lane Kiffin or Sark.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:12 pm to
Tom and Jimbo were BOTH using LSU for leverage. PERIOD.

Everyone seemed to ignore that Jimbo after having a world class QB for 4 yrs, had not developed a backup and left the program in bad shape. Not all good OCs make good head coaches.

Tom actually lost 4 games in his last season at Houston.
His only decent win was Louisville.

This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:15 pm to
I wanted him also but when he used us to get a better deal with Texas I moved on quickly
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
3400 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Tom and Jimbo were BOTH using LSU for leverage. PERIOD.


Don’t think that was true of Jimbo. I really believe a deal was in place for Jimbo to leave until ya boy FKA nixed it
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21845 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:18 pm to
Tom Hermanlover is a world class dweeb
Posted by Mongonius
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Oct 2007
436 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:18 pm to
I had this exact conversation this morning with my wife...about how I was wrong. I have always loved Coach O, but I was convinced that Herman was better. Happy I was WRONG!
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:18 pm to
My number one choice was Jimbo. Proven talent with Louisiana connections. However, after the prior LSU screwing, I didn’t think Jimbo’s self esteem would allow it. TAMU must have thought so because they made a ludicrous offer.

I was not convinced Of Herman, I didn’t think his small school resume qualified him for LSU caliber head coach. I also thought he was a Texas certainty from day one.

O wasn’t in my top 5. But I didn’t get all negatiger like the majority of the rant. I knew he could recruit and motivate. I was wait and see, while hoping for the best.

I waited, I saw, and so far we got the best!

Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Then, I was hoping we'd get one of the young Turks like PJ Fleck,


Fleck is still looking good at Minnesota. The Big10 is still winnable for them.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
3400 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:19 pm to
I wanted Herman as well. Glad he played us for UT and now they got played. Lol
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23064 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:19 pm to
I just thank God we have an AD incomplete enough to actually pull the trigger on hiring O. It was the right choice by a mile but didn’t seem like it at the time.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54511 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:20 pm to
I would love to bump some of the Coach O was shite hire look at what he did at ole miss threads. Coach O was not my first choice but I was all onboard with giving him a chance. I liked what I saw after ole miss and as temp LSU coach. If we win natty I am gonna bump that shite.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:21 pm to
Alleva was right for immediately getting out of the Herman race when Texas got involved. He was always going to Texas and it was just going to be a bidding war.

He was not right in immediately going with O and rushing to the podium. I’m not saying that he shouldn’t have ultimately hired O but the process from Herman to O seemed rushed and was a bad PR move. Which kind of summed up the Alleva era. Even when he was in the right they were so bad at PR it looked like they were wrong. The Florida game in 2016 is another example of this. LSU was in the right but allowed Florida to make them look like punks in the court of public opinion.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
3400 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:22 pm to
Still early tho. Herman might turn it around. He had a lot of injuries this year
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103070 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:23 pm to
Spot on.
Posted by Tim
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
7052 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:23 pm to
Jimbo was not a "great" OC. We couldn't run him out of town fast enough in 2004-05. How quickly we forget. I've never considered him a great coach. He got lucky with Winston at FS. Other than that, what has he done?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

I would love to bump some of the Coach O was shite hire look at what he did at ole miss threads


you would be very busy...and I was posting his record at OM has nothing to do with how he will do at LSU. I got shite constantly for saying you can't compare how LSU and OM offer support for their programs.

quote:

Coach O was not my first choice but I was all onboard with giving him a chance


so was I and I was actually very confident he would make us elite again.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:24 pm to
I was Jimbo or bust and I hope O beats the frick out of him this year. frick him and the Aggies.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84116 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

I've never considered him a great coach. He got lucky with Winston at FS. Other than that, what has he done?


Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11332 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:27 pm to
I just thank God we didn't get a hire than put us on the coaching carousel. Looking at what happened to Tennessee and Arkansas is awful...one bad hire makes you pull the trigger on another, then on another and before you know it your program is rubble.
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