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Posted on 6/25/10 at 7:43 am
Posted by Tiger TBone
Alpharetta Ga.
Member since Jul 2008
173 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 7:43 am
Hey y'all, I got this email asking for support for a petition to allow former drum major Rob Dowie to serve as an unpaid assistant this fall to help bridge uncertain times. If Roy King has no problem with it and he's willing to volunteer, why would you not allow this? Read and sign the petition if you agree. I've come to know Rob over the past two years and he is an outstanding young man and a natural leader by example. The experience would be good for him and the returning bandsmen love the guy.

Here's the message I received and link below:

Tiger Band Alumni,

As you are probably aware, Tiger Band is facing a challenging transitional period with the departure of Mr. Wickes and Dr. Moorhouse. With 3 brand new graduate assistants, a new drum major, and mostly new section leaders and captains, Mr. King will certainly need all the help he can get!

Rob Dowie, who was drum major for the past 3 years, is volunteering to act as an unpaid interim staff member to help ease the transition. His experience and connection to the students can be a stabilizing force for this challenging time. However, there is a possibility that some administrators in the School of Music may not allow him to assist the band. I feel that his presence is necessary, and if you would like to do something to support my efforts, I have created an online petition asking the School of Music to allow him to volunteer his time with us. I would greatly appreciate it if you would sign it, and feel free to pass the link along.

SUPPORT ROB DOWIE PETITION HERE
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 7:48 am to
Hey TBone - I'm sorry that the current Tiger Band members are going to deal with some bullshite this year because of what happened. I was in TB for Mr. Wickes 2-7th years and those first two years were kinda rough with the off the field politics.
I'll sign the petition and I commend him for his loyalty. The brotherhood of being in Tiger Band lasts a lifetime.
Posted by Tiger TBone
Alpharetta Ga.
Member since Jul 2008
173 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 7:59 am to
Yep, I am a lifelong TB supporter come hell or high water. I'd rather not comment much further on the current situation publicly as it wouldn't help change anything, but like you I've seen this kind of administrative/political mishandling in the past. The circumstances that surrounded the departure of Dr. Swor that involved multiple departments were shameful IMHO.

We go on and Tiger Band continues to be an elite organization with an enviable and special relationship with the LSU community. No other college marching band has been inducted into a music hall of fame or had a governor help form the band and another co-write the fight song. And I'll bet you felt especially proud when TGBFTL kicked USC's arse to win the ESPN Indiana Jones Battle of the Bands a couple years ago.

Keep the faith. Do you ever come back for Band Alumni reunion?
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 8:12 am to
Yes, I have come back for TB reunions but the last one was the Fresno State game. Mellophone 81-87. I've had two other trips cancelled because of damn hurricanes.
I must also apologize because I assumed you were currently in TB (Just read your profile) and I also see we are in related fields of work.

Regarding SC - they are not very good. Most SEC bands blow away every PAC 10 band. Hell, like everything else, the SEC also has the best bands in the country.
Posted by LSUGoose
Red Stick via St James Parish
Member since Jan 2006
5193 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 8:16 am to
Gar90 - where are you?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 8:45 am to
People need to really simmer down with all of this Tiger Band stuff. Moorhouse didn't invent Tiger Band and one person isn't going to make or break the organization. They still have good people running it between Roy King and the grad assistants.
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
2552 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 8:56 am to
Done.



Tigerband 90-94 (trumpet)
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
2552 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 9:00 am to
quote:

People need to really simmer down with all of this Tiger Band stuff. Moorhouse didn't invent Tiger Band and one person isn't going to make or break the organization. They still have good people running it between Roy King and the grad assistants.


Incorrect sir.

Linda Moorhouse took a temporary leave from tigerband in the early 90s to get her PhD. The guy they hired in her place was not good. I was in the band at the time and the difference was noticeable.

That's why people are nervous about the band
This post was edited on 6/25/10 at 9:01 am
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Incorrect sir.

Linda Moorhouse took a temporary leave from tigerband in the early 90s to get her PhD. The guy they hired in her place was not good. I was in the band at the time and the difference was noticeable.


RMK is in charge of shite now. Not some random guy. That should ease the transition. In fact, I'm almost glad LRM is gone. I think it'll be good for the direction of the program. It was getting stale and predictable.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29287 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Elleshoe


You do realize that this thread is about the Professors brother right .....that alone makes it epic ya herrrrd
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Linda Moorhouse took a temporary leave from tigerband in the early 90s to get her PhD. The guy they hired in her place was not good. I was in the band at the time and the difference was noticeable.


The same thing happened in 1998. Roy King was named interim Asst. Director (and was named Asst. Director upon Ms Moorhouse's return).

Everything was fine. Roy's drill is - dare I say it - better. People who are worried about this have no clue what's going on. The marching band will be great. Everything else, on the other hand... who knows...

Posted by Tiger TBone
Alpharetta Ga.
Member since Jul 2008
173 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 10:35 am to
quote:

It was getting stale and predictable.


FWIW this is an opinion that I have heard a lot in recent years (specifically about halftimes, the rest of the way the band has been maintained is not questioned) and is probably the reason for the desire to bring in a new director.

Roy is a stabilizing presence and having Rob come in as a volunteer with passion and leadership skills would also help keep things steaming ahead IMO. If Roy wants him he should have him and others need to concentrate on running a professional director search and leave the day to day management decisions to Roy.

And yes, Roy is very capable and maybe if he has the ambition to apply for the top job he will have a chance to show his chops this fall.
This post was edited on 6/25/10 at 10:38 am
Posted by LSUFAN1221
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
275 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Roy's drill is - dare I say it - better


Roy doesn't write drill, they will be hiring someone to do it.

Rob was suppose to be working with School of music until he put a comment on his Facebook.
Then he was suddenly let go, Hence the voluntary help.
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Roy doesn't write drill, they will be hiring someone to do it.



Roy wrote drill when I was in. And when we talked last, I understood that he still was at times.

To say he doesn't write drill is ridiculous - he teaches the drill writing class...
Posted by tiger band trumpet
Member since Sep 2008
5675 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 11:23 am to
Pretty sure Roy wrote a drill this past year.

It's very, weird I guess, what's going on right now with Tiger band
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6037 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 11:36 am to
Roy wrote i think 2 shows this year. One of them was the latin show. As far as i know he only wrote the drill and Moorhouse picked the music.

I was in Roy's drill class and the first thing he told us was "I do not consider myself an expert drill writer...I am adequate at best." It will probably be the same where he does 1 or 2 shows a year and then has someone else write the rest.

As far as Rob Dowie goes...I believe he is needed. Not to pick music or write drill...but the office work and behind the scenes stuff that has to happen for tiger band to function is more then you could ever imagine. Getting the practice field painted, getting buses and hotels for away games, etc. Rob and Roy are 2 of the very few that knows how it all works. It would be good to have him around so we arent scrabling to get things done. I understand some people don't like him but I think having him around would make the transition much easier while we get a new director.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56010 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 11:44 am to
about roy he will handle the band fine you don't need to worry about it. Most people won't be able to tell the difference.
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6037 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 11:50 am to
quote:

about roy he will handle the band fine you don't need to worry about it. Most people won't be able to tell the difference.


i agree. to the people in tiger stadium i dont think anyone will notice a huge change. the typical songs will probably still be played. the only thing is its not a one man job and having Rob around would be great so we have somebody else that knows what they are doing.
Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 12:11 pm to
quote:


It was getting stale and predictable.




FWIW this is an opinion that I have heard a lot in recent years (specifically about halftimes, the rest of the way the band has been maintained is not questioned) and is probably the reason for the desire to bring in a new director.

Extremely stale and predictable. SOS week after week, month after month, year after year. Half the band on the East side. Half the band on the West side. Couple of easy FM's, follow the leader flows, concert piece for the Golden Girls, exit to sideline to Fight or rimshots. Everything symmetrically balanced on each side of the 50 yard line. Old school shite that we were doing in the late 70's/early 80's. How about a little asymmetrical and quick tempo drill like you see in DCI. Yes, it's harder to do with 325, so increase practice time and add Monday's to the practice schedule.

The "Volunteer" thing is a good idea, but why would you need "Permission" to be an unpaid volunteer. Hell, if I want to volunteer my time to help out when it's needed, I'll do it. I don't need fricking permission from the School of Music clowns.

BTW, isn't there currently an on-going search taking place for a new director?

Nice to hear from you Del, how things going in Jawja?........
Posted by LSUisKING
Edgard
Member since Dec 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 6/25/10 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Getting the practice field painted, getting buses and hotels for away games, etc.



FYI - Drum majors deal with none of that, so he would be of no help. They will hire at leastone other person by the time the pre-season stuff starts -- the office assistant, who takes care of a lot of that, is still there also.

Relax folks. It will be FINE.
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