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re: T White returning punts. Edit: Study result added on page 3.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:55 pm to NorthTiger
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:55 pm to NorthTiger
Maybe because White was the best at it in practice?
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:56 pm to Macintosh504
Well considering 80% of the talent on this team are freshmen I'd say it's a pretty good idea,genius.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:11 pm to NorthTiger
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He is our best DB. Losing him to an injury would be a blow to our defense.
I absolutely hate this argument. He can get hurt on any defensive snap. there is not an increased risk of injury returning punts. So essentially, he gets 5 more snaps a game. not a big deal. If he wasnt returning the punts he would be blocking the gunners.
Somebody show me a stat where you increase your injury risk on special teams..............you cant because it doesnt exist
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:17 pm to FightinTiga
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Chark or Gage
No way! These guys do not yet have the physical maturity or mental toughness to handle this. A fumble on a punt return is the second worst kind of turnover after a pick-6. Although not on a punt return, Brandon Harris' fumble against SHSU was exactly the kind of mistake the unprepared make.
Every player on our team who has the physical and mental toughness and ability, as well as the coaching on ball security, is a starter like White. It would hurt to lose any of them.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:23 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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How many guys have actually been hurt returning a punt? Can anyone think of examples?
TM32 last year for the Cards.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:23 pm to deuce985
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RR is better than White, IMO
Yeah, and Tehuma is our best pass rusher. Common Rant mistake. RR is our third best defensive back after Mills and White. He is probably our best man cover guy, but that's only about a third of the position. We spend most of our time in zone, and he's no where near as good as Mills and White in zone.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:24 pm to tigerfoot
I get that it's a violent sport. I get that if you were worried about injuries you would leave your studs on the bench. I agree with the poster who said "thank God the OP is not our coach." I said that from the beginning. Whoever posted that LSU traditionally uses their best athletes on kick returns makes a very good case. That makes sense to me. It remains to be seen how good White is at returning punts......as most posters have written "wait and see."
As for studies....this took five minutes to find on Google:
“Effects of Time in Competition, Phase of Play, and Field Location on Injury Severity in High School Football” by Ellen E. Yard. Some of the highlights as it relates to injuries for high school football players:
•32.7% of injuries on kickoffs and punts were “severe” (defined as 21 or more missed days), compared to 19.3% on other plays.
•20.3% of injuries on kickoffs and punts were concussions, compared to 10.9% on other plays.
Maybe the injury rate is different in college and Pros than in high school.
As for studies....this took five minutes to find on Google:
“Effects of Time in Competition, Phase of Play, and Field Location on Injury Severity in High School Football” by Ellen E. Yard. Some of the highlights as it relates to injuries for high school football players:
•32.7% of injuries on kickoffs and punts were “severe” (defined as 21 or more missed days), compared to 19.3% on other plays.
•20.3% of injuries on kickoffs and punts were concussions, compared to 10.9% on other plays.
Maybe the injury rate is different in college and Pros than in high school.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:25 pm to NorthTiger
quote:When are people going to stop with this? Have you people even looked at return injuries even a little? Looked at the best known returners, even a little. Damn, just damn.
He is our best DB. Losing him to an injury would be a blow to our defense.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:09 pm to AlxTgr
Study results posted. The question remains, is T. White in the class of PP7, Chad Jones, et. al as a punt returner. Right now, no. I hope he becomes that.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:12 pm to NorthTiger
quote:no, if that is your standard, you may be really disappointed for a long long time.
is T. White in the class of PP7
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:28 pm to NorthTiger
The study did not focus on returners, which is the key. This is for all special teams players.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:33 pm to therick711
Good point therick711!
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:34 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I don't know if it did or not. If it touches a defender on a punt it should be dead where he touched it.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:34 pm to NotRight37
Does T. White come back next year?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:36 pm to ipodking
1. Sure hands !!!
2. Exciting runner and elusive
3. Best guy we have at this point
2. Exciting runner and elusive
3. Best guy we have at this point
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:38 pm to mattytiger123
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I've been saying Trey Quinn or Charknado. But I feel Trey Quinn is too valuable now.
Quinn was back to return the final two punts Saturday night but neither was returnable.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:39 pm to NorthTiger
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“Effects of Time in Competition, Phase of Play, and Field Location on Injury Severity in High School Football” by Ellen E. Yard. Some of the highlights as it relates to injuries for high school football players:
•32.7% of injuries on kickoffs and punts were “severe” (defined as 21 or more missed days), compared to 19.3% on other plays.
•20.3% of injuries on kickoffs and punts were concussions, compared to 10.9% on other plays.
Maybe the injury rate is different in college and Pros than in high school.
That's not a rate, that's a difference in severity.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:40 pm to therick711
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The study did not focus on returners, which is the key. This is for all special teams players
The study didn't have to focus on returners. This particular study found that if you step on the field on special teams you are more likely to be injured than a defensive or offensive player. If that is the case, draw your own conclusions on who is most likely to be injured. It's not a stretch to say the KR is more likely to be injured than the punter.
And does it make it better if the severity of injury is higher than rate. According to this study kick returns would seem to be the place you are most likely to see serious, season ending injuries.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:42 pm to NorthTiger
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This particular study found that if you step on the field on special teams you are more likely to be injured than a defensive or offensive player
Wrong. Based on the quotes provided, it says that injuries on special teams are more severe than injuries in other parts of the game. It (based on the quotes) says nothing about injury rate.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 3:44 pm to jaguar fan
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Does T. White come back next year?
He is only a soph
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