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re: Supporting the team VS. agreeing with decisions
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:02 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:02 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Hallefrickingluia.
You CAN "boo". But, it reveals you as a worthless, immature dick-head.
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Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:04 pm to STEVED00
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Anyone who thinks Lee gives us a better chance of converting a 4th and 1 on a QB sneak the JJ is borderline retarded.
Well-said, sir.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:05 pm to TheEye
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But I think we can still say I don't like this and I didn't like that and not be told shut up we're #1,
While I agree, I think this is a poor case to use to defend fan freedom of speech or right to be heard.
It was a coaching staff sub cause they wanted to run a QB sneak which we have done many times and is done every Saturday by many teams. If you are going to run that play, you would have to be nuts to use anyone but JJ. imo
I don't get the frustration angle, but each to our own.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:07 pm to TigerWoody
JJ is going to play against uf. This decision has been made by our highly successful coach. If you disagree with this decision to the point that it will cause you to lose control of your emotions and you will stand up and boo, then please stay home.
I know that people have paid their money which gives you the right to voice your opinion. I ask, if you paid for a movie that was so bad that you stood up to boo at the end, would you go back to see the sequel the next week?
Please, I'm begging, if you don't support Les Miles decision that JJ can help our team, stay fricking home.
I know that people have paid their money which gives you the right to voice your opinion. I ask, if you paid for a movie that was so bad that you stood up to boo at the end, would you go back to see the sequel the next week?
Please, I'm begging, if you don't support Les Miles decision that JJ can help our team, stay fricking home.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:13 pm to HTownTiger710
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One thing I think needs to happen here is that Miles needs to teach these kids some life lessons. Responding to ignorance(booing/whatever triggered the Shady's fight) is what got this team in trouble to start the season.
Allowing these kids to lash out against the fanbase through twitter condones the same course of action that led to the trouble at Shady's. These kids need to be taught to be the bigger men in the situation, as tough as it may be at times.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:13 pm to lightnchick
I agree with the 312, and very well articulated but the way. It has come to the point that one cannot simply make an observation or a comment without being labeled an extremist. You make a negative or derogatory statement regarding JJ and you are either a Lee lover, a racist or you simply hate the very air that JJ takes up by breathing. LSU fans have become conditional rather than being unconditional. I am a fan BUT you must listen to how much I support said player and if you agree with me then you are correct and righteous, a man amongst men, one that has a brilliant perspective regarding the complexities of the game and how it is coached. If you don't agree with MY perspective then you are an idiot. It is as if we have mini tribes, clans,groups, cults (take your pick) within the fan base. It is really becoming tiresome listening to the posts because there is very little discussion regarding the team as a whole but rather posters trying ever so hard to prove themselves right (or in many cases righteous). I have never witnessed so many people being so passionate and persistent regarding proving their "OPINION" right. Its an opinion and that his all that it is. It is like every other opinion: based on some fact, passion, wishful thinking and the desire to be heard. Whatever happened to the passionate LSU TIGER fan that supported his Tigers come hell or high water and would fight anyone didn't? Hell, it has gotten to the point that we eat our on.
All I am trying to say is that there has never ever never been a team that didn't make mistakes, have troubles, have questionable (coaching, play calling, decision making, personal decisions, etc.), and fan favorites. Theses issues have been with every team that has ever been or that will ever be. With that being said, there was a time when these same issues were prevalent BUT the fan was loyal and true to the team regardless. No wonder the players are encouraged not to read the message boards. Shame really, this is a time that we will long for in the future and many will regret the wasted time spent arguing. What we have here now is special and even though I am an LSU fan and homer, I know it will not last forever.
GEAUX TIGERS
All I am trying to say is that there has never ever never been a team that didn't make mistakes, have troubles, have questionable (coaching, play calling, decision making, personal decisions, etc.), and fan favorites. Theses issues have been with every team that has ever been or that will ever be. With that being said, there was a time when these same issues were prevalent BUT the fan was loyal and true to the team regardless. No wonder the players are encouraged not to read the message boards. Shame really, this is a time that we will long for in the future and many will regret the wasted time spent arguing. What we have here now is special and even though I am an LSU fan and homer, I know it will not last forever.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:16 pm to lctiger
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if you paid for a movie that was so bad that you stood up to boo at the end, would you go back to see the sequel the next week?
Comparing an 8 dollar movie ticket to the 2 grand people pay for season tickets is a bit extreme. Some of these fans have donated money to the program for over 30 years and have done a ton for this program.
With that said, I still don't think people should boo.
I just don't get the extreme reaction on both sides to what is going on. Its like politics these days....it is either one extreme or the other and no middle road.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:29 pm to HTownTiger710
I didn't boo, but sure felt a little sick at my stomache that Lee drove the field and JJ comes in after one practice and gets the TD. That was wierd feeling glad that we scored but uneasy that a guy who "earned it through character and being present at all the practices this year" didn't get the carry into the end zone. I am referring to any one of our running backs here not just JL.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:29 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I have always said.. if you support your team, you are entitled to bitch all you want INSIDE the family, i.e. tiger droppings, club with friends, etc.,but when you boo the players in public, you cross the line. You are actually hurting that which you claim to support.
the old saying applies...
you reprimand in private, you praise in public.
the old saying applies...
you reprimand in private, you praise in public.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:31 pm to HTownTiger710
If people are so out of control of their emotions that they have to boo, why keep spending 2 grand to "support" LSU. Find another team that you can decide who gets to play and when. And by the way, I pay for 10 on the west side and support whoever Les puts in the game.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:32 pm to TigerWilson88
look at your sig pick and change the word cheer for play. Life will be better for you.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:36 pm to lctiger
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I pay for 10 on the west side and support whoever Les puts in the game.
good for you..your choice...maybe not that of others,
even if I agree with you, we do not have the right to silence others
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:36 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Yeah, we 5-0, 16-2 in our last 18 games, #1 in the nation, and our coach is winning games at the highest rate EVER at LSU for a coach here a few years....it's easy to be frustrated with that kinda chit going on with our program.
I spit my drink out reading this
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:38 pm to TigerWilson88
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but sure felt a little sick at my stomache that Lee drove the field and JJ comes in after one practice and gets the TD
good thing the players aren't petty little bitches like that.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:39 pm to HTownTiger710
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You CAN "boo". But, it reveals you as a worthless, immature dick-head.
So does booing 18-21 year-old kids because they wear another jersey or don't play for the team you cheer for make you less of a dick-head?
good question
In big time sports the cheers and boos are part of the game - hopefully it isn't as nasty as what goes on in places like Philly or at a Yankees game... but you are going to hear boos and cheers
Next time you see a big play where a LSU player blows up an opposing player and leaves him senseless on the grass should you cheer? I think it is widely accepted cheering when that happens is part of the game - not because they are cheering another person's pain but because they are cheering their own team's success
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:42 pm to TigerWilson88
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JJ comes in after one practice
The guy has been here four years.
I think even Crowton got him ready for the sneak.
It is a bit confusing and all, but I think he got his read right.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:43 pm to lctiger
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look at your sig pick and change the word cheer for play. Life will be better for you.
So are you suggesting the fanbase should blindly cheer for a product they pay for, no matter the end results?
They didn't do so for Lee in 2008 or Marcus Randall in 2004.
This fanbase was excited about consistent QB play in the first 4 games and that is something we haven't seen since Matt Flynn. Whether its due to Kragthorpe, etc or Lee improving, there is no reason to mess with that.
Its unfortunate for JJ, but it is the nature of competitive sports. Miles is paid a lot of money to WIN at lsu and that is the bottom line.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:43 pm to boxcar willie
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but sure felt a little sick at my stomache that Lee drove the field and JJ comes in after one practice and gets the TD
I do not agree with the booing, but you can not deny that after all JL has been thru, that such was not an inflammatory move on Miles part.
I must be a little bitch too, because it surely did not seem right to me....of course I do not follow blindly. Miles is a human being and can do stupid things...we have all seen that and this had to fall under that heading.
...but booing in public
is out of bounds.
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Its unfortunate for JJ, but it is the nature of competitive sports. Miles is paid a lot of money to WIN at lsu and that is the bottom line.
come on.. we were playing KY and the first series of the game....get real.
Also, Miles is paid for making the right decision for the team..short term and long term.
That was just not a good decision for the first series.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:48 pm to TigerWilson88
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I didn't boo, but sure felt a little sick at my stomache that Lee drove the field and JJ comes in after one practice and gets the TD
Why?
Why would it matter AT ALL which one of OUR PLAYERS score? Do you have Lee on your college fantasy football team or something? Does it impact you in some personal way which one of our players gets to put numbers on the stat sheet?
Other than having a personal dislike issue with JJ, or an even creepier personal like issue with Lee, I can't for the life of me understand why it would matter to any LSU fan which LSU players did what on the field so long as they did it successfully.
Me? I want the guys with LSU written on the side of their helmets to do well... and that boils down to simply having more points than the opposing team when times runs out so that LSU will win. Other than that, I couldn't care less.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:50 pm to rbdallas
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come on.. we were playing KY and the first series of the game....get real.
So bringing JL into the game on 3rd and 7 in the 4th quarter with the game in hand does what for this team?
I don't have a huge problem with the JJ TD. I do have a problem with musical quarterbacks as it leads to inconsitency and a lack of flow on offense, which is the opposite of what we have seen in the first 4 games.
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