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re: sunshine pumpers are out of control!

Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68520 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:18 pm to
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we don't want to get rid of miles.


There is a large contingent that does, and you are just as blind if you dont see that.

I dont care that you hate the offense, its the people that have hated miles from day 1 and just lurk around to pounce at the first loss and now they say he is bringing this program down.

This is why sunshine pumpers go ape shite. Its absolutley ridiculous and ive heard it since 05.

again, plenty of people want miles gone.
Posted by tigerzballzdeep
Rockwall, TX
Member since Jun 2007
3095 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:19 pm to
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That being said, anyone who doesn't agree a change needs to be made at the OC spot is willfully blind to the situation.


Why the frick do people keep saying this?

It's not the OC! Crowton was under this same type of calling toward the end of his time.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:20 pm to
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Oh well if you see it that must mean your idiotic comparison of Miles to Coker is legit

I just have to laugh at some of you. Its too painful to believe you're that much of a Miles devotee.

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Seriously? you don't see a difference between a bar fight and a bench clearing brawl in the middle of a game?

Seriously, no. Character is character, or a lack thereof, regardless of where its displayed.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68520 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:21 pm to
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His teams have done great things at times and some very very foolish things at times. Both are reflective on Miles. Its my opinion LSU wins games in spite of Les Miles on the sidelines and not because he's there.


Told you, your post just backfied and proved why the so called sunshine pumpers exist. Its because posters like Gay Quest.

LSu wins in spite of Miles? He recruited every player an dhired every coach, his program his team. His is responsible for every win and every loss. Even if you think we win on talent alone, Les Miles brought the talent.

He has put us in position to compete and win championships, considering we won one just last year.

Its his fault and his fault alone that LSU has seen this success. It is his fault your expectations are this high because he has won at an unbelievable clip and has done things no coach in LSU history has done.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Boudreaux in SF
silicon valley
Member since May 2005
530 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:21 pm to
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1-4 in our bowl games.


This is the third thread that I have seen that you have incorrectly stated this point. Miles has an all time 5-3 record in bowl games at LSU. My personal favorite is when you stated LSU was 1-4 in its last 4 bowl games (hint 1 + 4 = 5).

2005 Peach LSU 40 Miami 3
2006 Sugar LSU 41 Notre Dame 14
2007 BCS NCG LSU 38 OSU 24
2008 CFA LSU 38 GT 3
2009 CAP1 PSU 19 LSU 17
2010 Cotton LSU 41 aTm 24
2011 BCS NCG Bama 20 LSU 0
2012 CFA Clemson 25 LSU 24
Posted by SCRATCH MY GOAT
Member since Jan 2013
910 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:22 pm to
Ok the typical rant response would be that you are really mad bro.. but I'm not going to go there bc it's stupid..

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1. You can quit reading the board or chicken just needs a circle jerk board like tidefans where if you say anything negative, you're banned


What part of the following sentences don't you understand?

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The issue on this board is not the negativity, it's the REPEATED negativity... The same threads over and over and over and over..


I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PROBLEM, YES A CHANGE NEEDS TO BE MADE... but for God's sake, can't people just post in one of the other 6372 offensive problems threads?
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:22 pm to
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Gay Quest.

I get it. Gay rhymes with Jay.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:22 pm to
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I just have to laugh at some of you. Its too painful to believe you're that much of a Miles devotee.


You're the one trying to compare Coker's first years at Miami to Miles' 8th year at LSU, do you honestly not see how flawed that comparison is?

Yes call me a devotee because I believe a program can't maintain the level LSU is at despite their head coach.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:23 pm to
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When most sports analysis joke about your coach and program, which they do about Miles, something really is wrong with the coaching.

Most? It sounds like you have been keeping a chart, complete with personality, show, date, time and exact quote. I would appreciat it if you would share your work.
How many are joking as opposed to those who aren't? What is the percentage of jokes over non jokes? Are these sports personalities locval, regional or national? Names please.
Thanks in advance.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:26 pm to
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You're the one trying to compare Coker's first years at Miami to Miles' 8th year at LSU, do you honestly not see how flawed that comparison is?

The comparison isn't contingent on a year by year analysis but rather on the premise that a less than great coach can achieve success.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:27 pm to
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Crowton was under this same type of calling toward the end of his time.


Crowton has a history of destroying QBs and offenses after the veteran QB leaves....hell, sometimes before.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:29 pm to
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The comparison isn't contingent on a year by year analysis but rather on the premise that a less than great coach can achieve success


Well seeing as the argument is a less than great coach can't maintain success, I fail to see what your position of one achieving succes has to do with this argument.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:30 pm to
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Well seeing as the argument is a less than great coach can't maintainsuccess, I fail to see what your position of one achieving succes has to do with this argument.

Again, it goes to perspective. I don't consider 2012 to be a successful season.
Posted by tigerzballzdeep
Rockwall, TX
Member since Jun 2007
3095 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Crowton has a history of destroying QBs and offenses after the veteran QB leaves....hell, sometimes before.


Are you insinuating we have developed QBs, or any offensive personnel for that matter, since his departure? C'mon man.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:33 pm to
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Again, it goes to perspective. I don't consider 2012 to be a successful season.


2011 was the second most successful season in college football that year. And 4th most successful season in our program.

So you don't look at W/L to determine success?
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 1:19 pm
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:38 pm to
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As a self-declared "posi-tiger," I am never one to make rash judgments about decisions of the coaching staff or execution of certain players on the field.


Whoa, I knew things were bad, but come on this is getting out of hand.

(I think you meant to say the players' execution of the game plan on the field).
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:39 pm to
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So you don't look at W/L to determine success?

Had LSU been favored in 5-6 games in 2012 and somehow managed to win 10 games I would have called that a very successful season.

However, winning 10 games when you were favored in 12 is not a success IMO. We loss two games to teams we were favored to beat. I don't know how "success" can be used to describe losing games you shouldn't have lost.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:47 pm to
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However, winning 10 games when you were favored in 12 is not a success IMO. We loss two games to teams we were favored to beat. I don't know how "success" can be used to describe losing games you shouldn't have lost.


Alabama lost 5 games in the last 3 season and were favored in all of them...failure I guess.

LSU lost 6 games in that time, while being favored in 2. We must be more successful right?

This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 12:49 pm
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:58 pm to
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Alabama lost 5 games in the last 3 season and were favored in all of them...failure I guess.

Each of those five games was a failure to achieve the result that was expected. But in each of the last two years Bama was able to recover and achieve the highest level of success in college football.

quote:


LSU lost 6 games in that time, while being favored in 2. We must be more successful right?

Bama won two NC's during that time span so I'm going to say no.

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