re: Stealing third with no outs.

Was sitting right there. He was livid with Deichmann on Friday night. Today he was not as mad with Freeman but still cherry tomato red. I agree with the poster above that part of learning to steal bases with a green light is when. I enjoy aggression more than being hesitant, but you don't have to be foot to the metal every single play, it should be dictated by the situation. Freeman did it while ahead, Deichmann in the beginning of a game that could have very well been lost because of the mistake. I'd rather them do it now and get chewed by CPM so they don't do it against A&M or Florida when that run could really make or break! Regardless very happy with the outcome of this weekend. A lot of guys stepped up and gained confidence, will be huge going forward!

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How times did we hear that this team needs to manufacture runs this year. Now when they are aggressive people want to complain. thats a hard throw for most college catchers.

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You're on second with no outs. Then run has been manufactured. Get a basehit. Get a bunt and a fly ball. A passed ball and a fly ball. A slow roller to the right side of the field and a fly ball.

All of those situations score you from second. There is absolutely ZERO reason to steal third with no outs unless the catcher is missing an arm completely.

If they have an amputee then sure steal third with no outs. If you look behind home plate and see two arms then Stay. Your. arse. On. Second.

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I don't consider attempting to steal third with no outs as aggression. With one out? Sure that's aggression. With no outs? That's idiocy. The rewards don't outweigh the risks. Especially in a close game like Friday

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I'm not sure of the situations as I wasn't able to watch the games this weekend, but there has been a shift in MLB against some of the conventional wisdom on the base paths and it may be making its way into the college game as well. Stealing 3rd on a left handed pitcher is fairly easy, and stealing 3rd with no outs or two outs is actually much more efficient than stealing with 1 out.

Additionally, the expected run value in MLB and the general success rate on stealing 3rd base (about 72%) would suggest you should steal 3rd base with no outs.

ETA: I was using some skewed Expected Run Value numbers. If you have a success rate of stealing third that is higher than 78%, you should steal 3rd with no outs. That isn't outrageous considering the MLB average is 72%.

I agree with this but there can be exceptions. For instance, if you're on 2nd with no or 1 outs and there's a lefty batting with a hitter's count situation. Signal the batter to intentionally swing and miss the next pitch so the catcher has to avoid the batter's motion in order to get a shot of throwing the stealer out. The other team doesn't really expect this too often even though it takes big balls to play this kind of small ball

You can absolutely make the third out at home.

Theoretically, stealing 3rd is easier than stealing 2nd.

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Basic baseball 101 don't make the first or last out at third or home.

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Basic Baseball 101 is what you teach to a team full of 12 year olds who don't have the wherewithal to understand who is above the standard rules. As you get older and more developed, you should begin to understand that there are situations where your ability will allow you to buck the status quo.

I agree with your baseball 101 except last out at home. You almost always send the guy with 2 outs home

When I played college baseball, I had the green light to steal any base at anytime and ended up the season 48 for 48 in Stolen bases.

There are more ways to score a run from third base as there are from second. A sac fly will score, a ground ball will score you and a passed ball will score you. None of those will score you if you are standing on second base.

If you are adept at running the bases, you trust that player to know when to steal. That doesn't mean they should always do it but you give the green light to your fastest, most skilled baserunners.

Stealing 3nd is generally easier than taking 2nd. Especially if the pitcher/batter is rt. handed. With the 2nd and 3rd basemen playing off the bag, you can get a much better lead than you do with the 1st base guy sitting on the bag.

It's not really some kinda bad play.