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re: Statement from Les Miles on last night

Posted on 8/20/11 at 8:02 am to
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19065 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 8:02 am to


quote:

"We are aware of the incident that took place at an off-campus location at which some of our players were present. We don’t know to what extent our players were involved. We are trying to gather as much information as possible to get a better understanding of what exactly took place last night.” - Les Miles


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"We are aware of the incident that took place at an off-campus location at which some of our players were present. We don’t know to what extent our players were involved. We are trying to gather as many alumni together as possible to get all the witnesses paid off to clear JJ from what took place last night.” - Les Miles


Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52576 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 9:33 am to
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Yeah, Ensminger had more than a few fights in his days at LSU. I saw several of them outside Fred's, though it was called FAP's in those days.


Yea, me too. My Frat brother won Rounds 1 and 3 against him.
Posted by RamblingTiger
US Army
Member since Feb 2011
253 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

The best thing is get out front on it. Say the players involved are on suspension until further notice, then re-instate them as you clear them. If that's in time for them to play v. Oregon, fine. If not, then I'm OK with that, too. Those that cannot be cleared will stay suspended until the courts decide what to do.




Hmmm, I thought we lived in a country where the law states an individual is innocent until proven guilty. However, this guys comments state otherwise.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

If JJ kicked a marine in the head on the ground he should be straight out expelled not suspended.


It does not matter if the person was a marine or not
Posted by myree
jonesboro, ar
Member since Oct 2009
567 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:18 pm to
" We are trying to gather as many alumni together as possible to get all the witnesses paid off to clear JJ from what took place last night.”

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

If JJ kicked a marine in the head on the ground he should be straight out expelled not suspended. It does not matter if the person was a marine or not


Agreed Tang. People keep throwing up this allegation as if we should car that a Marine got his arse wooped in stead of another student.

The marine should have at least been capabhle of putting up a defense.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 6:32 pm to
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If JJ kicked a marine in the head on the ground he should be straight out expelled not suspended. I would rather lose with class
Your statement proves you know nothing about class. JJ should get what he is due for kicking anyone while they are down....Marine or otherwise.

ETA: IF JJ actually hit or kicked anyone. The story is not passing the smell test. There is a story out that includes a statement by a female witness claiming JJ was not hit, did not hit nor kick anyone.
This post was edited on 8/20/11 at 6:55 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 6:35 pm to
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We are trying to gather as many alumni together as possible to get all the witnesses paid off to clear JJ from what took place last night.”


Maybe. But you ever try to get to the bottom of a bar fight with witness interviews? Say there are 100 people there. 30 are three sheets to the wind. 10 are in the bathroom. 50 of them had no vantage point and could not see what happened. That leaves ten witnesses, all with different loyalties, eyesight, panic level, whatever. No, I buy that it is not yet clear what actually happened.
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 6:44 pm to
Well, since only the sober ones can even make a statement to police to begin with, I'd say 1 out of 10 is about right.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 6:45 pm to
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Your statement proves you know nothing about class. JJ should get what he is due for kicking anyone while they are down....Marine or otherwise.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25734 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 6:46 pm to
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Agreed Tang. People keep throwing up this allegation as if we should car that a Marine got his arse wooped in stead of another student.

I have a lot of respect for the armed forces but it wasn't like the guy was in uniform. He was no different from anyone else that night.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 6:59 pm to
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I have a lot of respect for the armed forces but it wasn't like the guy was in uniform. He was no different from anyone else that night.
Uniform or not, if a service member gets involved in a fight they are fair game. I am a vet who never expected any special treatment for the uniform I wore. If I jumped into a fight, I expected swings to come my way. The armed forces debate is irrelevant here.
Posted by warrenlee
Member since Feb 2008
49 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 11:27 pm to
It's called due process and student privacy.

also, there have been fights in the "old days" that landed players in trouble. Art Cantrell comes to mind.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20865 posts
Posted on 8/20/11 at 11:51 pm to
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investigation will conclude on Monday, Sept 5.


Straight out of the Bobby Bowden playbook..."Now son, I know you raped that girl last night, so you are going to have to walk, instead of run out with the rest of the team for opening kickoff at tomorrow's game"
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
2493 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 12:50 am to
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Maybe I am an old fart but I remember when it wasn't such a big deal to be involved in a bar fight.


I'd agree with you if this was some romantized boys-will-be-boys, take-it-outside to settle the score kind of thing. That would be my idea of a regular bar fight. But if it was 20 guys jumping on a driver and his friend, not so much.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28335 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 12:58 am to
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Hmmm, I thought we lived in a country where the law states an individual is innocent until proven guilty. However, this guys comments state otherwise.


The law is one thing, but Miles has the right to suspend/dismiss/discipline as he sees fit.
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