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re: Start Poche Tomorrow or Monday?

Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:06 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:06 am to
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Come on Ell. Are you just bored right now? Lol
I haven't turned the game off... so yeah.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:08 am to
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No brainer


We are talking about a kid's health here
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:08 am to
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Can you imagine the backlash though if we didn't throw him tomorrow and we lose?
I can. I wouldn't be one of them.
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You end your season without throwing your hottest pitcher?
Had this discussion last weekend with SELU's approach. It's all about winning 2 of 3 and what you think as the coach gives you the best opportunity to do so. Some would seriously consider giving Poche an extra day after all he threw Friday/Tuesday.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:10 am to
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We are talking about a kid's health here
Funny I'm getting some flack for this. Bregman said he'd have the same approach and guessed Dunn/PM would do the same...
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79130 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:10 am to
their bats might shell Johnny to pieces
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:13 am to
Save Poche for CWS
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:24 am to
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Start Poche Tomorrow or Monday?



There is no choice to make. Why wouldn't you start him in the game that will actually be played? Monday is a fantasy.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:26 am to
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Tomorrow...there may not be a MONDAY game at this rate...


There is no Monday game. Start him because he's our best available and there's no point in losing worse than we already will.
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:42 am to
You cannot ask a guy who just pitched on short rest to push it more.

I think Valek/Bugg/Newman. Poche on Monday. We just have to hit our way to Monday.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:43 am to
@SmartestMoran
Paul says Jared Poche' will start tomorrow's elimination game "if he feels good." Will see how he feels tomorrow before the game #LSU
Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:45 am to
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, of course. Some think one game at a time. There's no right or wrong approach because you can justify it either way.


Not pitching him tomorrow will be the wrong way ...

Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:47 am to
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@SmartestMoran 
Paul says Jared Poche' will start tomorrow's elimination game "if he feels good." Will see how he feels tomorrow before the game #LSU





That's CPM CYA. Of course Poche will say he's good. Then if he gets rocked, it will be "He said he felt good"

CPM should have said nothing.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:47 am to
And if his arm isn't feeling 100%? Throw him anyway right?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:48 am to
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Of course Poche will say he's good
He told PM he couldn't pitch the 9th last Tuesday.
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:53 am to
That's different. He ran out of gas and was honest about it.

This is different, he just got drafted. If he's going pro, he'd be smart to defer to Monday.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 12:55 am to
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was honest about it
And maybe he'll be honest tomorrow too and it's that he needs more time?

I'm not saying this happens. I would want Poche to start. I'm just playing a little devil's advocate because I think it's a good discussion and people may not realize that it's not as straight forward as it seems because of last weekend.
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:28 am to
Should of started him game one.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 1:33 am to
This is big boy time: start Poche. He will have plenty of time to rest after this game. Later this summer in pro ball at even the lowest levels he will be pitching on 5 days rest as a starter and they may work him up to that with the 6 day rest on occasion. He is not a sure fire bet to advance very far in the pro's. Not ruling out as a lefty, they may put him in the pen.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33474 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:11 am to

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Why would you leave poche on the bench with the season on the line?


What part of the following quote from the coach is vague or ambiguous?

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Paul says Jared Poche' will start tomorrow's elimination game "if he feels good." Will see how he feels tomorrow before the game


The young man was mature enough against Rice to tell the coach that he "was done" after the 8th inning. It is very important that he have that same maturity and honesty today. If his arm isn't 100% ready to go today, do we really want him on the mound with the season on the line? If he has any doubts, I was just as soon try to win the game without him and let him be ready for Monday. LSU needs to win one game with him and one game without him. Does it really matter what order they occur?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39229 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 7:17 am to
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Why would you leave poche on the bench with the season on the line?


Almost everyone on here got the answer right but the reason wrong. You don't start Poche because "it's win or go home". Both games are. You start him because Coastal's pitching will likely be stronger in game two than game three. You need Poche to beat their best remaining pitching so that wholestaff can match up against the lesser guys. That's also why you start your ace on Friday nights.
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