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Sports Science guy on Fournette: Can create same momentum as 500-lb tiger
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:19 am
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“You can say Fournette is the perfect storm for a running back. He’s big, but not too big. He’s fast, but not too fast,” he said. “His speed is elite, but it’s not so fast that the force he’s experiencing is too much for his body. That’s what happens to smaller running backs. He’s in the Goldilocks zone.”
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:20 am to TigerCLT
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:35 am to TigerCLT
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His speed is elite, but it’s not so fast that the force he’s experiencing is too much for his body. That’s what happens to smaller running backs.
I have literally never heard of someone being too fast. Perhaps he is trying to say that running too fast creates a ton of shearing force on tendons and ligaments when a back tries to cut at full speed?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:38 am to TigerCLT
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:46 am to Bmath
He's saying that if he were any faster, the impact of collisions would be too great on his body, without adding more weight
A Ferrari hitting a brick wall at 60mph won't hold up like an F250 hitting a brick wall at 60mph
A Ferrari hitting a brick wall at 60mph won't hold up like an F250 hitting a brick wall at 60mph
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:55 am to Bmath
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I have literally never heard of someone being too fast. Perhaps he is trying to say that running too fast creates a ton of shearing force on tendons and ligaments when a back tries to cut at full speed?
I think you're on the right track.
If you watch the 30 for 30 about Bo Jackson, it mentions his size, strength and speed were to much for his body. Dr. Andrews blames that for the severe injury to his hip on such a routine play. The force exerted on his leg was to much for the hip to handle when he planted his foot and was taken down.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:58 am to TigerCLT
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. He’s in the Goldilocks zone.”
And he's coming to Tuscaloosa to take their porridge.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:27 am to Bmath
not all people who are fast have the agility to make it work for them when they aren't running in a straight line.
johnny manziel is a good example excellent quickness and agility but not really that fast (relatively speaking). trey quinn has excellent speed and quickness (10.5 type 100m) but lacks the agility to fully utilize it (not saying he has no agility, just not as good as his speed). fournette is in a nice spot. fast (10.65 100m), quick AND has the agility, change of direction to go with excellent running instincts and vision. total package. not to mention ridiculous strength and power.
johnny manziel is a good example excellent quickness and agility but not really that fast (relatively speaking). trey quinn has excellent speed and quickness (10.5 type 100m) but lacks the agility to fully utilize it (not saying he has no agility, just not as good as his speed). fournette is in a nice spot. fast (10.65 100m), quick AND has the agility, change of direction to go with excellent running instincts and vision. total package. not to mention ridiculous strength and power.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:27 am to Bmath
quote:Let the sports science guy do his job, and you do yours (flipping burgers)
Bmath
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:51 am to TigerCLT
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“His speed is elite, but it’s not so fast that the force he’s experiencing is too much for his body. That’s what happens to smaller running backs. He’s in the Goldilocks zone.”
Ok this is just stupid. Fournette is about as fast as running backs come. Smaller running backs are less durable because they're smaller and weaker, not because they're too fast
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:53 am to TigerCLT
Honey Badger was enough. Let's please not call Fournette Goldie Locks!
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:54 am to TigerCLT
This claim is utter nonsense. LF7 at 20.5 mph generates approximately 3900 ft.lbs./sec momentum whereas a 500 lb tiger at 35 mph generates over 25k ft.lbs./sec. It is not even close. I do not understand how he could make such an obviously absurd assertion.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:55 am to Grim
Only on the rant can you find people that call the sports science folks stupid.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 10:57 am to BoogaBear
Bama folks love this article
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:00 am to TigerCLT
Botton Line:
The MAN runs ANGRY!!
The MAN runs ANGRY!!
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:04 am to BoogaBear
Didn't say he was stupid, I said that statement was stupid. Like someone above mentioned with Bo, someone that big making such sharp aggressive cuts can be tough on the joints and ligaments. But this guy is saying fournette is just slow enough that this isn't an issue. How much faster could he really be? Another couple hundreths of a second off his 40 time wouldn't be the difference in getting hurt or not
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:09 am to Grim
He probably was calculating the tiger at the same speed as Fournette or around 15 mph. Who knows.
We're missing the point though. The most impressive stat to me was that he can make a 60 degree angle cut and retain 85% of his speed. That's freaking crazy.
We're missing the point though. The most impressive stat to me was that he can make a 60 degree angle cut and retain 85% of his speed. That's freaking crazy.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:10 am to White Tiger
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This claim is utter nonsense. LF7 at 20.5 mph generates approximately 3900 ft.lbs./sec momentum whereas a 500 lb tiger at 35 mph generates over 25k ft.lbs./sec. It is not even close. I do not understand how he could make such an obviously absurd assertion.
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White Tiger
I think you're just jealous.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:10 am to cforester821
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He probably was calculating the tiger at the same speed as Fournette or around 15 mph. Who knows.
It's at 10 mph and in the article.
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Fournette barrels into defenders, mostly using his shoulder. The momentum of those hits, at full speed, is comparable to that produced by a 500-pound Bengal Tiger running at 10 miles per hour.
Other people in this thread need to relax, jesus.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 11:11 am
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:17 am to White Tiger
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This claim is utter nonsense. LF7 at 20.5 mph generates approximately 3900 ft.lbs./sec momentum whereas a 500 lb tiger at 35 mph generates over 25k ft.lbs./sec. It is not even close. I do not understand how he could make such an obviously absurd assertion.
Perhaps the catch is, since the (larger faster) tiger doesn't try to run through his prey, and stops to consume it upon contact the tiger isn't generating full momentum on contact?
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