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Sometimes the best hire is not picking the wrong guy

Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42664 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:07 am
Thankfully Bertman saw through Petrino and saved LSU a lot of embarrassment.

Florida probably feeling the same way right about now since Freeze was a finalist for the Fla job.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:21 am to
He was the right hire at the time. And yes, Bertman saw through that scum, Petrino. As a coach he certainly had an eye on winners. Les wasn't flashy but I think Bertman def saw that Les had what it took.

I just hope that Coach O is the right hire for LSU at this time.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42664 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:28 am to
Bertman knew how hard it would be on the next guy to replace Saban, he saw it firsthand with the Smoke hire.

Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:30 am to
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Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.


So true it hurts.....
Posted by Amish threesome
Olive Branch
Member since Oct 2013
976 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:35 am to
Wasn't smoke lavall hired by bertman? Oh I also think Pokey was also hire by him, that turned out stellar!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:37 am to
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Oh I also think Pokey was also hire by him, that turned out stellar!


Pokey was a very good coach and had a great history at LSU. No way you could have seen that coming.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:38 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:39 am to
Plenty of folks want to cannonize Skip for his time as AD. Skip has been going on the radio telling people that he was visionary during coaching searches, etc. The hard truth is Skip was brough on as AD to be the messenger for the imposition of tradition fees. He was a figurehead. LSU needed someone popular to tell its fans and donors that something enormously expensive and unpopular was needed to compete at the highest level. That guy was Skip Bertman.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28381 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:45 am to
Maybe none of this comes to light if Freeze is hired at UF in 2015.

The NCAA violations at Ole Miss would have occurred under Freeze, but with him being at UF, maybe the desire to pin everything on Houston Nutt isn't as great. If Nutt doesn't take legal action, then Freeze's phone records may not have come under scrutiny. If the phone records don't come under scrutiny, the fact that Freeze was calling "pros" may not have ever come out.

The line to replace Nutt at Ole Miss wasn't long. Freeze wanted the job and was clearly ok with the boosters' desire to "bend the rules" to field a winner. Freeze was the right man at the right time for what Ole Miss wanted to do. They sold their soul to the devil to get back to football glory and EVERYONE knew it. It was one of the least transparent instances of cheating in the last 20 years. Ole Miss mostly got what it wanted on the field. Now the bill is due, with interest
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
1978 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:52 am to
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Pokey was also hire by him, that turned out stellar!


You're a moron
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12247 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:53 am to
Freeze might not have needed to resort to cheating at UF.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11166 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:55 am to
Lots of truth by alt and therick in this thread.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7347 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:55 am to
Stevie Wonder could see Petrino is a scumbag.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Freeze might not have needed to resort to cheating at UF.

It would have been much worse. He would have been in fricking Florida.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21909 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:58 pm to
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Miles would have been the legend had Saban not come back to the SEC West.


Yep. Would've been national champs in 2011 and very likely repeated in 2012. Then who knows what happens after that without having all those years of recruiting against Saban.


Posted by LosTigres25
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2017
365 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Maybe none of this comes to light if Freeze is hired at UF in 2015. The NCAA violations at Ole Miss would have occurred under Freeze, but with him being at UF, maybe the desire to pin everything on Houston Nutt isn't as great. If Nutt doesn't take legal action, then Freeze's phone records may not have come under scrutiny. If the phone records don't come under scrutiny, the fact that Freeze was calling "pros" may not have ever come out. The line to replace Nutt at Ole Miss wasn't long. Freeze wanted the job and was clearly ok with the boosters' desire to "bend the rules" to field a winner. Freeze was the right man at the right time for what Ole Miss wanted to do. They sold their soul to the devil to get back to football glory and EVERYONE knew it. It was one of the least transparent instances of cheating in the last 20 years. Ole Miss mostly got what it wanted on the field. Now the bill is due, with interest


Alt26-

Thats as good a post as Ive seen in here in quite a while.
Posted by LosTigres25
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2017
365 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:07 pm to
If Les couldve convinced Landon Collins and Cam Rob to stay in state, he would still be at LSU and it may have been Nick on the move.
Those LSU/Bama games of 2011/2012 were unbelievable. Well in retrospect 2 of the 3 were.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10614 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
It would have been much worse. He would have been in fricking Florida.
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--at least his phone calls to FL "escorts" wouldn't have been long-distance!
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:51 pm to
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Plenty of folks want to cannonize Skip for his time as AD.
Hell of a lot better than the Joe before him and the Joe after him.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45052 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Florida probably feeling the same way right about now since Freeze was a finalist for the Fla job.


UM would probably hire Freeze again if they could have a do-over and I dont blame them. They werent anything before him. Now they are just back to square one.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
1779 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:23 pm to
I knew one of the guys on the coaching search committee at that time, and Petrino didnt even make it past the committee to be able to talk to Bertman because his initial interview was so bad.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 3:05 pm
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