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re: Someone 'Splain to Me What I Just Saw (our D)

Posted on 11/24/13 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Nick Cest Bon
Covington
Member since Jan 2004
388 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 7:34 am to
Improving, but rain helped a lot. Manziel seems to have smallish hands. Hard to throw the college football without Mett size hands when it's cold and wet
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16530 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 1:31 pm to
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If JFF connects on a few of those passes tht his wrs dropped it may be a different game. It kept them out of rhythm all game


There was one drop on a slant 1st qtr by Evans.

How many others did they flat-out drop?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67213 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 1:41 pm to
Moist field conditions negated Texas A&M's speed advantage on the outside. Their receivers' ability to make cuts and burn our vulnerable corners was negated. Johnny Football could still get up to straight-line speed, but he couldn't juke or maneuver as well without stumbling or slipping. This slight speed reduction enabled our linebackers (particularly the middle one) to be more capable of keeping up in coverage.

Their offensive line has never been dominant. Our defensive line played with passion and had their best game of the year. With less time to throw, a wet ball, and less ability to evade tacklers, Johnny Manziel made less accurate throws. This led to a reduced completion percentage and 3rd down conversion rate.

LSU's power run game was optimized by the conditions, allowing our larger offensive line to routinely push back their undersized defensive line. This led to more first downs, less pressure on the passing game, fewer incompletions, and more time of possession for LSU. Johnny Manziel can't produce points while his team is on defense.

Short version:
Defense was motivated, offensive game plan was perfect, weather gave LSU an advantage due to scheme.
Posted by lsutigress2004
Richmond, TX
Member since Aug 2007
65 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 2:20 pm to
The defense came together and played as a TEAM and not INDIVIDUALS. They finally trusted each other and Chief to do what they are there to do. I was very impressed with the D and even more so that it was against Little Johnny. The commentators were making me sick with all the praise they were giving to the Aggies. Our team made a statement, we are and will always be a force to be reconed with. I just hate to see it all come together so late in the season for them.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
6912 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 2:28 pm to
one thing that has been overlooked and i think more important than scheme, is that the tackling was much MUCH better. Before Saturday it was abysmal. i really do think that as bad as the scheme was and as lost as our players were in both the UGA and Ole Miss games, if we'd tackled better we'd have still won both of them.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 3:01 pm to
Too bad Chavis didn't think of this defense for the Mississippi game.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28353 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 3:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Mobiletiger
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2007
1507 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 3:40 pm to
3 ints and vanilla playcalling after that killed LSU in ole miss game. Offense couldn't stay on field in 2nd half and defense wore down. still only lost by FG.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10268 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 3:41 pm to
There were also a lot of missed plays by A&M. Dropped balls, missing wide open guys, etc. way more than the norm from what I remember watching anyway.

Not trying to take anything away from what the defense did, because I think they played their best game by far, but had A&M made a few plays they should have, I think it would have been more of a "norm" game for us this year. I think them missing some of those key opportunities put them in a hole they couldn't get out of. Just my take, I still think they looked improved overall.

Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 4:16 pm to
Negatigers will say that Johnny Football was throwing against the wind (he was) in the fourth quarter when they were trying to come back. That is also the reason that Evans couldn't run his routes.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 4:22 pm to
You put a Jefferson on the field in an LSU team and Defenses suddenly start playing amazing.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16530 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

There were also a lot of missed plays by A&M. Dropped balls, missing wide open guys, etc.


I didn't think they dropped that many (only 1 I recall is Evans on the slant in the 1st qtr; others?). Regarding the rest don't you think our pressure, coverage, etc had something to do with it?

You don't have to sack the QB or int the ball, just offset the timing to be effective in pass D. I thought all-in-all we did great. Just bamboozled why it took so long and how we improved so much at one time. Our D was incredible for 4 qtrs Sat.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76552 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:38 pm to
I'm suddenly more optimistic about next season
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:50 pm to
The two Defensive Ends pushed straight ahead and a little to the outside so Manziel could not run wild,run wide and break loose on his famous runs. He was forced inside and the linebackers were looking for him being forced inside. That's why Welter played his best game, Manziel ran right to him. This and shout-down corners made it happen.
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