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re: Someone help me out.. why do you start Jefferson?

Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:03 am to
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:03 am to
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link?...or BS.....


Lee was at Walk Ons last night and talked with Matt Mascona on 104.5 for about 5 mins in the back end of the show. Mascona asked hm "Do you feel more comfortable coming off the bench?" Lee responded "Yes, it takes a little pressure off and gives me some confidence"

I posted a thread about it last night and it was ignored so.....take it for what you will. I'm sure they'll post it in the audio vault sooner or later.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:03 am to
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Ok there is some football logic here that I can grab onto. And since UF does excel at pass coverage, and since neither of our two QBs excel at passing, it would seem like LSU will need to do the Big Ten/Cholly Mac dance and run the ball at Florida. And be as good as Alabama was at it. We could win if the strategy works and if we can sustain long drives that actually score, eat up chunks of real estate and clock, and thus keep the ball from UF's offense.

I believe that is the game plan. Miles will put Lee in to throw and see if he can actually draw the defense off the line. If he can't, then JJ will go back in.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:03 am to
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Just because JL is a 'better' passer than JJ does NOT mean he's an effective passer.


Yeah, 16/23 for 185 yds isn't effective at all.

Marching the team down for the game winning drive isn't effective at all.

You have no credibility left after that comment.
Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7190 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:05 am to
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He can't put RS in at QB because he doesn't present enough of a threat to pass


At this point he presents NO threat to pass because he has never attempted one. If he attempts one, then all bets are off. So the question is, why hasn't he attempted one?
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:06 am to
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Just because JL is a 'better' passer than JJ does NOT mean he's an effective passer


I'd say picking up the 4th and 14 was pretty "effective" wouldn't you?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:07 am to
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But they will continue to point to his ONE highlight this year, a run against a weak UT team

I guess you missed JJ's 18 yard run for a TD vs State.

The guy is a legitimate threat to score running the ball - no matter what you may want to think about him.

Other teams actually see this, even if LSU fans don't. That's why they assign a man to JJ which opens up the run game for Ridley.
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:08 am to
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why do you start Jefferson?


I have absolutely no idea. Glad I could help.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:09 am to
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That's why they assign a man to JJ which opens up the run game for Ridley.


Drinking that Miles kool-aid, huh?
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:09 am to
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I guess you missed JJ's 18 yard run for a TD vs State.

The guy is a legitimate threat to score running the ball - no matter what you may want to think about him.

Other teams actually see this, even if LSU fans don't. That's why they assign a man to JJ which opens up the run game for Ridley.


You can pound your chest all you want about JJ's running ability but our offense has been absolute dog shite through 5 games. We can't keep running the same shite we've been doing against these weak arse teams. It WILL bite us on the arse.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:10 am to
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It doesn't matter who starts. It matters who gets most of the snaps


It does matter when one of the ones sharing snaps is, at every point in the game, the worst player on the field.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:11 am to
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It doesn't matter who starts. It matters who gets most of the snaps



It does matter when one of the ones sharing snaps is, at every point in the game, the worst player on the field.


This. Plus, why would you concede whole offensive series to failure (except for a potential fluke play)....I guarantee our opponents will be happy we cut the number of legitimate scoring offensive series in half.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:13 am to
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Yeah, 16/23 for 185 yds isn't effective at all.

16/23 for 185 yards, 0 TDs and 1 (should've been 2) INTs. Is NOT very effective.

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Marching the team down for the game winning drive isn't effective at all.

Marching the team down for the game winning drive and then throwing a TERRIBLE pass to Ridley that was intercepted in the end zone is EXACTLY why JJ went in on the goal line at the end of the game.

But maybe you missed the second to last drive:

Palardy, M. kickoff 65 yards to the LS5, Pa. Peterson return 24 yards to the LS29 (Johnson, A.;Sapp, D.).
Ls 1-10 at Ls29 LSU drive start at 11:27.
Ls 1-10 at Ls29 Jarrett Lee at QB for LSU.
Ls 1-10 at Ls29 Stevan Ridley rush for 6 yards to the LS35 (Williams, G.;Reveiz, N.).
Ls 2-4 at Ls35 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Russell Shepard for 9 yards to the LS44, 1ST DOWN LS, out-of-bounds (Evans, A.).
Ls 1-10 at Ls44 Jarrett Lee pass complete to Rueben Randle for 47 yards to the UT9, 1ST DOWN LS (Teague, M.).
Ls 1-G at Ut09 Timeout LSU, clock 09:54.
Ls 1-G at Ut09 Jarrett Lee pass intercepted by Thompson, L. at the UT0, Thompson, L. return 0 yards to the UT0, touchback.

THAT should have been the game-winning drive.

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You have no credibility left after that comment.

I got news for you, NO ONE has ANY credibility on this web site - get used to it or GTFO.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:14 am to
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usually the first drive or so is scripted and JJ may know and fit into that script better.

You do realize this "script" wasn't written before the season. and even if it was, the coaches could changes and script plays for JL.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:15 am to
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Marching the team down for the game winning drive and then throwing a TERRIBLE pass to Ridley that was intercepted in the end zone is EXACTLY why JJ went in on the goal line at the end of the game.


THAT is 150% on the coach's bub. That call NEVER should have been made.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:16 am to
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why hasn't he attempted one?

I guess what thye coaches see in practice is absolutely meaningless.

The only things that have any meaning are what the Rantards can see in 3 hours on a Saturday afternoon.

We've never seen Drake Nevis attempt a pass either, does that mean he's a great passer?

No.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:18 am to
I honestly can't believe we STILL have people defending Jefferson. It's just incomprehensible.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:18 am to
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16/23 for 185 yards, 0 TDs and 1 (should've been 2) INTs. Is NOT very effective.





Your argument now is the "what if" game? Do you really wanna play that with your boy JJ's performances

Oh, and it was far more effective than JJ's last 3 COMBINED starts. Chew on that.

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Marching the team down for the game winning drive and then throwing a TERRIBLE pass to Ridley that was intercepted in the end zone is EXACTLY why JJ went in on the goal line at the end of the game.



JJ threw an int to a man ON HIS KNEES with NO RECEIVER nearby. That is the definition of TERRIBLE.

JJ went in because Miles had a want to run the ball. Not because JJ is the better qb. If you could not see that from the game.....

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THAT should have been the game-winning drive.



So JL was able to do it twice (1 ending less than favorable) and JJ can't do it at all. Thanks for making my point. Bench JJ.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60282 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:19 am to
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16/23 for 185 yards, 0 TDs and 1 (should've been 2) INTs. Is NOT very effective


So what is 3/10 for 30 yards, 0 TDs in 4 1/2 games, and TWO interceptions? Yeah...JJ's the next Montana. Your boy blows.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:20 am to
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Drinking that Miles kool-aid, huh?

Don't be such a fricking a-hole.

People are asking questions on the board that not only has Miles already answered, but all you have to do is look at the play on the field to realize what's going on - and answer the questions.

Mile, Crouton and Gonzales are all to blame for not having an SEC caliber QB ready to go this season. It's inexcusable.

But I'm not going to sit around and cry about it in themiddle of the season, it is what it is. How do we salvage the rest of the season - and remain undefeated?

You pretty much have to do what Miles is doing. It's a clusterfrick, it's atrocious offense, it's pretty much Miles' fault, but at this point it's all we've got - and it's gotten LSU to 5-0 so far.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:21 am to
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Don't be such a fricking a-hole.

People are asking questions on the board that not only has Miles already answered, but all you have to do is look at the play on the field to realize what's going on - and answer the questions.

Mile, Crouton and Gonzales are all to blame for not having an SEC caliber QB ready to go this season. It's inexcusable.

But I'm not going to sit around and cry about it in themiddle of the season, it is what it is. How do we salvage the rest of the season - and remain undefeated?

You pretty much have to do what Miles is doing. It's a clusterfrick, it's atrocious offense, it's pretty much Miles' fault, but at this point it's all we've got - and it's gotten LSU to 5-0 so far.


Annnnnnnd Jefferson STILL needs to be on the fricking bench. If for no other reason other than acting like a spoiled kid when he gets taken out.
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