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re: So we face a very weak Secondary...and I am honestly almost certain we won't...
Posted on 10/12/12 at 7:59 am to BigEdLSU
Posted on 10/12/12 at 7:59 am to BigEdLSU
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The wisest plan of action would be to pound it behind the left side of the line all night. Run straight at clowney. The more we pass, the more havoc he will wreak.
This is exactly right. We have to be able to throw the ball, but trying to resort to the fun and gun against South Carolina would be disastrous. I agree, we have to run at clowney significantly and keep a balanced approach to the play calling.
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Posted on 10/12/12 at 8:00 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
He learned a lesson at Florida. We will receive the opening kick. We'll immediately take 3 consecutive timeouts to set up the jump pass on the opening play. Following that, we will run it 26 consecutive times.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 8:03 am to higgins
I think we'll see a good bit of cross buck too.
Let 44 smash into clowney, let Hilliard or ware counter and run towards Taylor.
They'll over pursue, and open it up.
PA off of the I formation, and hit um deep.
Let 44 smash into clowney, let Hilliard or ware counter and run towards Taylor.
They'll over pursue, and open it up.
PA off of the I formation, and hit um deep.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 8:04 am
Posted on 10/12/12 at 8:15 am to GFunk
How do you expect LSU to attack South Carolina down the field with it's offensive line issues? South Carolina's defensive ends are on another level from what LSU has faced.
LSU can't spread a team out with multiple receivers because they have to leave a TE and RB/FB in the box to help out with pass protection. The WRs have trouble getting open against one on one coverage, when you have to max protect, it allows the other team to cover your routes with multiple defenders.
LSU can't spread a team out with multiple receivers because they have to leave a TE and RB/FB in the box to help out with pass protection. The WRs have trouble getting open against one on one coverage, when you have to max protect, it allows the other team to cover your routes with multiple defenders.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 8:22 am to skullhawk
FWIW - landry missed on two passes that he def should have caught last week. We had more passing plays than running last week but we did run or short pass at questionable times.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 8:24 am to GFunk
excellant take Gfunk, but we know leslie would not take the obvious advice.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 8:58 am to skullhawk
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How do you expect LSU to attack South Carolina down the field with it's offensive line issues? South Carolina's defensive ends are on another level from what LSU has faced.
Exactly. Mett will die if we try to air it out all night. Keep in mind that there's a good chance that Josh D will be asked to block Clowney.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:18 am to skullhawk
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skullhawk
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How do you expect LSU to attack South Carolina down the field with it's offensive line issues? South Carolina's defensive ends are on another level from what LSU has faced.
LSU can't spread a team out with multiple receivers because they have to leave a TE and RB/FB in the box to help out with pass protection. The WRs have trouble getting open against one on one coverage, when you have to max protect, it allows the other team to cover your routes with multiple defenders.
If you don't think putting wide receivers at the numbers in a 3 receiver formation with either a slot receiver or a TE that gets out into a route, along with two-backs in the backfield (either offset, I, or in the shotgun to either side) will open up both the run & the pass then you don't know football.
Having multiple backs in the backfield with >2 receivers requires a defense to either play at least single deep safety (if they want to dedicate 8 men in the box) or two deep safeties to protect against the deep ball (thereby allowing the run-game to get untracked against at best a 7-man front with a TE/blocking back giving you hat-on-a-hat 7on7 #'s in the run game).
I don't know much about the game, but evidently you know a tad less.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:22 am to ItNeverRains
Les for some unknown reason will not use Landry who can catch any thing thrown in his direction. I know some of u will not like this but I think it is sorry coaching! 
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:27 am to GFunk
Cliffhanger.....
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:32 am to GFunk
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If you don't think putting wide receivers at the numbers in a 3 receiver formation with either a slot receiver or a TE that gets out into a route, along with two-backs in the backfield (either offset, I, or in the shotgun to either side) will open up both the run & the pass then you don't know football.
Or, since Mett isn't a threat to run, they only rush 4 and drop 7 into a Cover2 Zone defense.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 9:34 am
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:34 am to GFunk
3 step drops & run slants all night. Then slant & go's when they start cheating. Gotta make it quick bc ZM won't have much time to throw.
Why did we go away from this last Saturday? Mettsiah was carving dem dudes up on the 1st drive.
Why did we go away from this last Saturday? Mettsiah was carving dem dudes up on the 1st drive.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:34 am to GFunk
Leaving 3 extra blockers in the box to block 4 or 5 defenders prevents the WRs from getting one on one matchups on the down-field routes you're calling for. It doesn't require anymore explanation.
Of course you don't. You're the guy who's yelling "THROW IT MORE!!!!!!" without even addressing our serious deficiencies at WR and OL. Let's run routes that require time to develop and play right into the strength of the SC defense. GENIUS!
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I don't know much about the game
Of course you don't. You're the guy who's yelling "THROW IT MORE!!!!!!" without even addressing our serious deficiencies at WR and OL. Let's run routes that require time to develop and play right into the strength of the SC defense. GENIUS!
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:38 am to skullhawk
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skullhawk
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Of course you don't. You're the guy who's yelling "THROW IT MORE!!!!!!" without even addressing our serious deficiencies at WR and OL. Let's run routes that require time to develop and play right into the strength of the SC defense. GENIUS!
Wait...You're telling me that running PA and having it be CREDIBLE PA and using the middle of the field won't give us more time in the pocket? That running middle routes somehow take more time on a read than a deep out? That by slowing down the USC defense, we will somehow have less time to give routes to develop?
That by requiring them to cover the slot receiver (Landry) one-on-one that we will still have problems in the passing game?
Landry in space versus a nickel defender or linebacker is a win for us every time. The problem has been that he's had bracketed coverage and we run (at BEST) two receiver pass-plays that give the advantage back to the defense even on PA passing.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 9:39 am
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:47 am to GFunk
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Wait...You're telling me that running PA and having it be CREDIBLE PA and using the middle of the field won't give us more time in the pocket? That running middle routes somehow take more time on a read than a deep out? That by slowing down the USC defense, we will somehow have less time to give routes to develop?
That by requiring them to cover the slot receiver (Landry) one-on-one that we will still have problems in the passing game?
Landry in space versus a nickel defender or linebacker is a win for us every time. The problem has been that he's had bracketed coverage and we run (at BEST) two receiver pass-plays that give the advantage back to the defense even on PA passing.
I don't disagree with this. PA is only going to work if we can run the ball. Apparently we cannot anymore.
If we get Landry 1 on 1 against a LB or S, that would be great. Attacking the middle of the field would be a welcome change. I'm hoping we've found something with Jacobs over the middle.
You're seeing too much potential in our passing attack. There are problems at every level.
I hope we light SC's secondary up.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:51 am to GFunk
Our secondary is our weakest point in our defense, but our front 4 makes up for it by getting pressure on the QB quickly. Teams haven't been able to hit the deep ball against us because they don't have the time to let it play out. With your o-line looking like it is, yall are going to have to mix in screens and probably draw plays to relieve the constant pressure.
Clowney and co. are going to live in yalls backfield tomorrow night.
Clowney and co. are going to live in yalls backfield tomorrow night.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:55 am to Lonnie Utah
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Or, since Mett isn't a threat to run, they only rush 4 and drop 7 into a Cover2 Zone defense.
If that's what USCe is planning to do then we'll rush for 300yds Saturday and win by 14. No way that happens. Your coaching staff is going to stack the box and make Mett throw the football just like every other DC worth a shite would do.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:56 am to Honkus
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Why did we go away from this last Saturday? Mettsiah was carving dem dudes up on the 1st drive.
They shut the whole thing down after he threw the pick.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:58 am to JimMorrison
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Clowney and co. are going to live in yalls backfield tomorrow night.
I'm tired of sitting back and making excuses. frick clowney and his homo last name. We will destroy him and your pathetic team.
Posted on 10/12/12 at 9:58 am to GFunk
They aren't that weak, they have some real athletes out there in the secondary. SC's Front seven is crazy good as well. With our struggling line that has seemed to lose yet another tackle it would be suicide to throw the ball.
Front seven putting crazy amounts of pressure on out O-Line and QB makes any secondary go from half way descent to ball hawks. Not to mention our wideouts are undersized.
I hate saying this but it's not looking good. Oh well let's do this Tiiiiiiiiguuuuhsss. I'll be super loud and proud for moral support.
Front seven putting crazy amounts of pressure on out O-Line and QB makes any secondary go from half way descent to ball hawks. Not to mention our wideouts are undersized.
I hate saying this but it's not looking good. Oh well let's do this Tiiiiiiiiguuuuhsss. I'll be super loud and proud for moral support.
This post was edited on 10/12/12 at 10:00 am
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