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So I'm philosophizing this morning regarding PM....
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:02 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:02 am
And I find it interesting that PM says he builds his team for Omaha.
But, if you really take a close look at it, the home runs (for the most part) took us as far as we went. And when we couldn't hit them, we struggled.
When you are not hitting them, things like strategy, and base running, stealing, hit and runs, bunting, etc, (fundamentals), become a more significant part of the game. COACHING plays are more integral part of the game.
One has to wonder.....
But, if you really take a close look at it, the home runs (for the most part) took us as far as we went. And when we couldn't hit them, we struggled.
When you are not hitting them, things like strategy, and base running, stealing, hit and runs, bunting, etc, (fundamentals), become a more significant part of the game. COACHING plays are more integral part of the game.
One has to wonder.....
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 8:12 am
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:07 am to cra_cra
Agreed
Not being able to bunt, a recurring theme, killed us
Aggression is not necessarily good base running.
Fundamentals, or lack there of, continue to be mostly non-existent
Not being able to bunt, a recurring theme, killed us
Aggression is not necessarily good base running.
Fundamentals, or lack there of, continue to be mostly non-existent
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:10 am to cra_cra
We had deficiencies... Like most teams.
We got to the championship, so he did something right. He is not all to blame. Ultimately it comes down to the players executing. Our bats went cold. That's baseball.
We got to the championship, so he did something right. He is not all to blame. Ultimately it comes down to the players executing. Our bats went cold. That's baseball.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:12 am to cra_cra
only those west coast hippie teams bunt anymore on a consistent basis
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:22 am to cra_cra
I think we are overthinking it. Maneiri is a very good program CEO and has been able to maintain us at a high level for a long period of time. That being said, he isn't the guy you want to manage a 1 game, life or death, scenario. He is a very average game day manager. It's been proven time and time again.
But his total body of work is very impressive.
But his total body of work is very impressive.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:28 am to cra_cra
I'm still trying to understand where people are getting this notion that this team consistently couldn't lay down bunts or steal bases. I think a lot of people are making it obvious they only watched the championship series.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:33 am to cra_cra
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One has to wonder.....
You are making things too complicated.
Pitching is the key part of any baseball game. A team with the best pitcher usually wins. The old saying about good pitching beats good hitting is true.
LSU simply got out pitched by Florida. It wasn't as if Florida could bunt and we couldn't, or Florida could steal and we couldn't, or they hit and ran and we didn't.
Florida had the better pitchers. We knew that on Monday and were pleasantly surprised that our backline guys kept us close and that we were able to score off their future first rounder.
In the second game, Dyson out pitched Poche', but he(Dyson) had the help of some poor D on our part which gave him a lead. He had the lead and he cruised. We applied very little pressure on him.
It wasn't coaching, it wasn't poor fundamentals, it was better pitching.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:38 am to cra_cra
They are built for it. They just didn't execute against Florida. Can't really bunt or hit and run when the lead off guy is an automatic out. It's hard to get going when you start out with 1 out.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 8:38 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:41 am to The Eric
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Ultimately it comes down to the players executing.
While this is true. The coach has a lot of say in this. They are calling pitches, they are calling bunts, steals, hit and runs. They are coaching as the play is happening. The only thing he has no control over is when the ball leaves the bat, it's then up to the players to make the plays they've been coached to make. But even then, the base runner has two coaches telling them what to do as the ball is in play.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:42 am to TH03
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Can't really bunt or hit and run when the lead off guy is an automatic out. It's hard to get going when you start out with 1 out.
Funny, I recall twice LSU having two men on with no outs and came away with nothing. But yeah, coaching didn't have anything to do with that.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:44 am to TH03
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They just didn't execute against Florida.
Exactly!! Did anyone see the Florida pitchers?? They were dealing!! You have to tip your hat to them because they pitched lights out. We did square some balls up in the 2 games but most of those were hit right at someone which I give credit to good scouting reports.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:46 am to dgnx6
Slaughter fricked up on his slide and Kramer hesitated before breaking for home. Execution.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:48 am to cra_cra
The team was built fine. We just ran into a team that was better than us. It happens. We were the 2nd best team in the country. That doesn't mean we need to change our entire strategy because we finished at runner up to national champions.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:48 am to tiger nutz
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Exactly!! Did anyone see the Florida pitchers?? They were dealing!! You have to tip your hat to them because they pitched lights out. We did square some balls up in the 2 games but most of those were hit right at someone which I give credit to good scouting reports.
I remember it being 2-1 with 7 hits each. LSU had 3 errors, UF 0. But you know, the coach decided on a diff player to start at first base.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:49 am to dgnx6
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I remember it being 2-1 with 7 hits each. LSU had 3 errors, UF 0. But you know, the coach decided on a diff player to start at first base.
Must be nice to have your crystal clear, 20/20 hindsight knowing that Coomes would have two errors.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:49 am to TH03
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Slaughter fricked up on his slide and Kramer hesitated before breaking for home. Execution.
Slaughter starts the game LSU might not be down anyway.
Kramer didn't hesitate, there is a coach standing rt next to him telling him what to do.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:50 am to dgnx6
And slaughter came in for coomes and took a run off the board with the slide. You can't have it both ways dude. Just move on. The team is built to win, we just ran into a better team.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:50 am to lsu2006
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I'm still trying to understand where people are getting this notion that this team consistently couldn't lay down bunts or steal bases. I think a lot of people are making it obvious they only watched the championship series.
100% agree with this.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:52 am to lsu2006
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Must be nice to have your crystal clear, 20/20 hindsight knowing that Coomes would have two errors.
Slaughter was put back into the game. It was a bad decision by the coach.
The buck starts and stops with coach. I think he just needs to teach better baserunning and manage his bullpen better. Never once have I stated he is a shite coach or needs to be gone.
I'm just not bashing players that are being told what to do.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:54 am to TH03
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And slaughter came in for coomes and took a run off the board with the slide. You can't have it both ways dude. Just move on. The team is built to win, we just ran into a better team.
I never said it wasn't built to win. The coach made decisions that led to wins and losses. That is all.
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