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re: So how do yall see this selection committee settling out?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:19 pm to catholictigerfan
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:19 pm to catholictigerfan
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when has it ever been that humans don't have an impact on the system.
A committee, however, is different.
With the Coaches and Harris polls, members are located all over the country. They never convene, and instead submit their ballots online the night before the polls are released.
A committee, though? That convenes, discusses, and deliberates over important decisions? Members, in such a scenario, can be bought. They can be influenced. They can be removed and replaced.
What does this sound like to you?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:19 pm to catholictigerfan
quote:isn't that just a return to the early days of the BCS?
also how eslse would you determine it would you really trust computers to pick the national championship playoff?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:39 pm to L S Usetheforce
It should be the winners of the 4 Big bowls. Too much money tied to the fiesta, orange, sugar, and rose to walk away from them. Only time the commitee shoul get involved is if one of the bowl games was where the score didn't reflect the play on the field.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:42 pm to Btrtigerfan
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Only time the commitee shoul get involved is if one of the bowl games was where the score didn't reflect the play on the field.
Are you telling me that in your system the committee could come along and send the loser of a game to the playoffs because the committee thought the loser played better????
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:44 pm to L S Usetheforce
All I know is people will be bitching and complaining about the selection process within the next few years.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:47 pm to Btrtigerfan
quote:This is entirely to much personal judgment in what is taking place on the field.
It should be the winners of the 4 Big bowls. Too much money tied to the fiesta, orange, sugar, and rose to walk away from them. Only time the commitee shoul get involved is if one of the bowl games was where the score didn't reflect the play on the field.
I also don't think it should just be the winners of each BCS bowl.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:49 pm to JBeam
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I also don't think it should just be the winners of each BCS bowl.
I agree. Considering how last year played out (the Sugar Bowl, for example), it would solve nothing.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:49 pm to LSU316
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Are you telling me that in your system the committee could come along and send the loser of a game to the playoffs because the committee thought the loser played better????
Yes. It will be known as the "Alabama Clause."
The Championship Game will be held in Tuscaloosa where the trophy rightfully belongs. The committee will consist of the Tuscaloosa town council. Alabama always in the final game, and you have to beat them twice.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:50 pm to Btrtigerfan
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The Championship Game will be held in Tuscaloosa where the trophy rightfully belongs. The committee will consist of the Tuscaloosa town council. Alabama always in the final game, and you have to beat them twice.
And Harvey Updyke gets to flip a two-headed coin to see who gets ball first.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:52 pm to SabiDojo
quote:LSU fans will find someway to feel discounted
All I know is people will be bitching and complaining about the selection process within the next few years.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:53 pm to L S Usetheforce
Not sure how it will play out, but I bet they hate LSU. Amirite?
Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:54 pm to Btrtigerfan
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Yes. It will be known as the "Alabama Clause."
:sigh:.....I wonder if people would have bitched as much about Bama making the 4 team playoff after they steam rolled OK State and we thumped Stanford.....then 1/9 played out the same way it did in real life
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:48 pm to L S Usetheforce
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As I stated in the other thread, the selection committee will be an abject failure and will do nothing but spawn consipiracy theories and claims of corruption. Human beings, with all of their irreducible prejudices and predlictions, should not be allowed to dictate who plays for a national championship, especially in a sport such as college football where allegiances and grudges run deep.
This is true, and because it is true the selection committee will fall back on the "conference champion strong preference" to make the selections. It will be hard for a team not a conference champion to get into the four team playoff. The way this is being set up, especially on the heels of the LSU-Alabama controversy, Alabama would not have gotten into the playoff after losing to LSU in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 7:27 am to L S Usetheforce
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In many years it will be easy to pick the 4 best teams but his will set up for some interesting seasons!!!!!!
Not really. Top 3 has been pretty easy through the years, but 4 is difficult. Since the inception of the BCS, without question there have been more years where there have been two or three teams in the discussion than there have been with four.
This has just added one, and thrown someone else in.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 9:19 am to monz29
As the basketball committee picks 68 teams, how many are on it? It's my take that there are not actually that many? So how many would it take to get to 4? The more bodies in the room, the more regional BS you'll get. To have 20 sitting around a conference table to pick 4 teams will take forever as well. Do you only take representatives of "non competitive" schools like a Harvard or New Mexico State. No media, no coaches, no bowl committee hacks to start eliminating reps.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 9:21 am to L S Usetheforce
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How many men/women will decide the fate of so many?
In many years it will be easy to pick the 4 best teams but his will set up for some interesting seasons!!!!!!
I can't wait to see this crap unfold.........
How many members should it have?
How many years do you stay on the committee?
Are you paid to be on the committee?
could not agree more, see my last post.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 9:24 am to Btrtigerfan
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Btrtigerfan
So how do yall see this selection committee settling out?
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Are you telling me that in your system the committee could come along and send the loser of a game to the playoffs because the committee thought the loser played better????
Yes. It will be known as the "Alabama Clause."
The Championship Game will be held in Tuscaloosa where the trophy rightfully belongs. The committee will consist of the Tuscaloosa town council. Alabama always in the final game, and you have to beat them twice.
Why not, that's what they did in December of 2011.
The """""""""ONLY"""""""""" reason that Alabama was stampeded into the BCSNCG was the BCS Human Poll Voters and Coaches that voted Oklahoma State FIFTH OR SIXTH.
Saban voted OSU FOURTH. Hmmmmmm.
And still, OSU was still only a few points behind Alabama in the final regular season BCS poll.
In other words, they STILL almost made the NCG.
A lot of the voters voted OSU SECOND, some THIRD.
If this minority faction of IDIOTS had just voted
OSU THIRD instead of FIFTH OR SIXTH, The Mulligumpnecks would have taken their rightful place in """""""ANOTHER"""""""" bowl game, not in New Orleans Jan. 9.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:39 am to MetryTyger
The AP and Coaches poll will still play a factor in selection... You can't have 8-10 people go into a room and pick 4 teams that don't resemble the top 4 teams in the polls. As for who they select it's almost impossible but they have got to try to pick people with as limited ties to any particular conference or team. (I know almost IMPOSSIBLE) but that having been said it's needs to be men and woman and preferrably a couple from each corner of the country as to say they tried to eliminate bias. ESPN stay far away as well as FOX, NBC, ABC, or any other network that has an interest in TV ratings.
There is no way to make everyone happy but as long as they don't do something stupid wih the selection group it will be much better and college football fans are 1 step closer to what they've wanted for ever.
There is no way to make everyone happy but as long as they don't do something stupid wih the selection group it will be much better and college football fans are 1 step closer to what they've wanted for ever.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:17 am to The312
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the selection committee will be an abject failure
So, you don't think a committee this past season would have come up with LSU, OSU, and Bama?
No doubt the 4th team would be debated, but I don't see "abject failure" taking place.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:31 am to L S Usetheforce
USC & Bama get automatic byes, everyone else fights it out for the remaining 2 spots.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 11:32 am
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