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re: Small ball baseball=four corners basketball
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:15 am to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:15 am to PurpleAndGold86
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The pitch looks good to a hitter because hitters like high pitches and are taught to jump on high mistakes.
I don't think hitters aren't taught to swing at most of the pitches we swung at last night
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He puts them just high enough that it is hard for the hitters to get their hands on top of the ball.
It is not impossible when you shorten your swing and go with it....a couple of our, some would say, worst hitters did it last night.
I'm still skeptical that Plutko will be the best pitcher we see in this tournament....especially if we make it past UNC. Although I'm not certain that UNC's #2 can't shutdown an impatient group of hitters like it appears we have at the moment.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:17 am to Godfather1
West Coast style of play can get your there but not win enough games? Since 2006, four teams from the west coast have won the CWS.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:18 am to LSU316
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I'm not really going to call out Ross on his error...although it was a play he should make...it was a tough get on that ball for sure and a tough angle on the throw.
That is what will happen fielding bunt after bunt. Katz comes off the bag to field it or Jones catches it they don't score. It is what happens in small ball. No reason to bash anybody.
What gets me is we are a MUCH better hitting team than UCLA and the NCAA and TD Ameritrade took our advantage away.
If they decided to extend the base paths 10 feet small ball would end and that wouldn't be right either. I say let's just go to wood bats and play ball. I believe wood bats would be better than the current bats for hitters. (I heard Bertman say we need to change the ball to the ball minor leagues use. There is something about the seams that is different and restricts the ball.)
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:19 am to LSU316
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I don't think hitters aren't taught to swing at most of the pitches we swung at last night
I didn't say they were. I said he got them higher than that. Hence the reason for the pop ups. One more time. The pitch looks good to the hitter. He commits but it is very difficult to get your hands on top of the baseball when it is located where Plutko was locating last night.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:24 am to I B Freeman
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What gets me is we are a MUCH better hitting team than UCLA and the NCAA and TD Ameritrade took our advantage away.
I think Plutko and more importantly our impatience with him took that advantage away from us.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:26 am to PurpleAndGold86
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The pitch looks good to the hitter.
Some of those pitches had to start at damn near eye level.....we weren't patient at the plate last night...although that shouldn't really shock anyone.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:26 am to I B Freeman
On that field I bet UCLA wins 3 or 4 games out of 10. The field is to their advantage and style of play. It's a bad match up for LSU. We win 9 of 10 at The Box.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 8:31 am to mrbug708
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West Coast style of play can get your there but not win enough games? Since 2006, four teams from the west coast have won the CWS.
None of which played that UCLA/UCI brand of small ball known as West Coast baseball.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:49 am to Godfather1
The style of baseball displayed this weekend is killing the excitement of the game. I'm losing interest because of it. Everyone is held accountable for their mistakes except pitchers. Plutko threw 3-4 bad pitches that should have been HR's but were deep fly outs. The dead bats compensated for his mistakes. The Mississippi State closer throw a bad pitch at the end of the game and he should of paid the price. In both of those games, the enthusiasm would have been off the charts with a couple of dingers. They have completely taken dingers and in the gap triples out of the game and also have allowed Mendoza esque players to excel. I like the comment made about “how would small ball survive if we moved the bases back 10 feet”. It wouldn’t because it would take small ball away just like they took HR’s away.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 10:07 am
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:57 am to Topwater Trout
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Personally I like games that are not 21 to 14 and take 4 hours, that was not baseball.
Maybe not 21-14, but a good 9-8 game is far more exciting than 2-1 with only 10 hits overall. Baseball is a very slow game by its nature, but it's almost unwatchable with no hitting.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:59 am to GarlandTiger
I hate that style of baseball too....but bottom line is small ball had nothing to do with Bregman not fielding that ball and getting us out of the inning. He makes some awesome plays defensively but tends to let a few routine plays eat him up.
I just think that it sucks for us to recruit and build our team with power hitters suited for The Box and then have to win a championship in that cavernous place...but it is what it is. Let's get the bad ABs and errors out our system and lets get on a roll!
I just think that it sucks for us to recruit and build our team with power hitters suited for The Box and then have to win a championship in that cavernous place...but it is what it is. Let's get the bad ABs and errors out our system and lets get on a roll!
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:02 am to nola tiger lsu
quote:Sure, but there's no need to go from one extreme to the other. A home run is now a novelty at TD, even on very well hit balls.
Personally I like games that are not 21 to 14 and take 4 hours, that was not baseball.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:04 am to d6k
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but bottom line is small ball had nothing to do with Bregman not fielding that ball and getting us out of the inning
It kind of does. If they don't play small ball and bunt the guy to second, they wouldn't have scored on that booted ball.
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build our team with power hitters
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:10 am to I B Freeman
I never thought that I would see the day where more HRs were hit in the women's CWS than men's CWS
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:18 am to I B Freeman
LSU needs to adopt small ball beccause in that park it's impossible to hit it out consistently like they tried to do last nite. Anwhere else the score would have been 5-2 tigers. I kept yellin at my tv hit more singles to drive people in, but instead they kept tryin to crush the ball.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:24 am to I B Freeman
Its a BAD brand of baseball but PM is the only one complaing of the teams still playing..........
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:30 am to LSU316
I could be wrong, but it seemed to me the ump actually had a low strike zone whenever he was actually forced to call balls and strikes.
Our hitters just didnt give him that chance very often.
Our hitters just didnt give him that chance very often.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:30 am to I B Freeman
College balls have 1mm seams, majors/minors have .5 mm seams. Actually results in quite a bit less distance you can hit the ball.
Based on what I read and watched, if they were to change it to .5 mm seams it would result in an amount of homeruns between this years team and the 09 team even with the current era dead bats.
So I think personally it'll be a pretty good idea to give a lil back to the power teams and kind of even the game out right now. You see the NCAA take away the bats cause it wasn't translating to the MLB very well, I would say its the same thing happening to pitchers now with quite a few college pitchers with under 2.0 ERAs.
NCAA went too bat shite crazy with the bats and need to compensate to bring everyone back down to earth.
ETA: this was in reference to I B Freeman's post "I heard Bertman say we need to change the ball to the ball minor leagues use. There is something about the seams that is different and restricts the ball"
Based on what I read and watched, if they were to change it to .5 mm seams it would result in an amount of homeruns between this years team and the 09 team even with the current era dead bats.
So I think personally it'll be a pretty good idea to give a lil back to the power teams and kind of even the game out right now. You see the NCAA take away the bats cause it wasn't translating to the MLB very well, I would say its the same thing happening to pitchers now with quite a few college pitchers with under 2.0 ERAs.
NCAA went too bat shite crazy with the bats and need to compensate to bring everyone back down to earth.
ETA: this was in reference to I B Freeman's post "I heard Bertman say we need to change the ball to the ball minor leagues use. There is something about the seams that is different and restricts the ball"
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:36 am to MadtownTiger
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College balls have 1mm seams, majors/minors have .5 mm seams. Actually results in quite a bit less distance you can hit the ball.
The biggest thing with the seams is the larger they are the more movement a pitcher gets. With smaller seams the pitchers stuff isn't nearly as nasty so there would be more home runs from that alone.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 10:37 am to lsu480
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The biggest thing with the seams is the larger they are the more movement a pitcher gets. With smaller seams the pitchers stuff isn't nearly as nasty so there would be more home runs from that alone.
Also a factor.
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