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re: Since O took over and the Danny Etling haters question...

Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:24 am to
Posted by Kedwards1
Monroe
Member since Jul 2017
571 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:24 am to
Thank your boy guice. Wait, I get it, you live in this world where it is always better to blame someone else...no accountability. Yep, that was all on O because guice fumbles inside the 5 looking to go up double digits. That's all on O that jackson got picked for 97 yards...Jackson and aranda get passes. That's all on O that jackson proceeds to fumble the kickoff, giving up 3 more points. It's all on O that guice goes wrong way....

Yep, mane, those two guys should have been coached better, not their fault.

Edit...I'm not even a O fan, but this shite is absurd the level you guys will go to in order to bash O. It speaks volumes about the intelligence levels of you guys, because y'all actually believe the shite you are spewing.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 4:33 am
Posted by Kedwards1
Monroe
Member since Jul 2017
571 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:30 am to
Where was Jacksonville st, Mississippi st, and auburn? Lil

You keep acting like we didn't do well against Florida...we at a minimum put up 23 points against a #6 national scoring D, if guice secures the ball. It is funny how all blame on that goes on coaches. Worst case scenario without jackson and guice screwups is a 23-10 win....worst case. Fluke game...happens....against bama, they were better . Period.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10910 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:36 am to
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the Danny Etling haters
Every member of the GOAT (Scott) and King Lowell (Narcisse) Entourages, plus all the "Dual Threat Glorified Running Back With Quick Feet Trying To Play QB" jock sniffers.
Posted by Kedwards1
Monroe
Member since Jul 2017
571 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:47 am to
Yep...he fast mane...and got a cannon for an arm. Don't know WHEN to run, can't hit the side of the barn, and can't even begin to progress through reads...but he fast.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24329 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:48 am to
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You keep acting like we didn't do well against Florida...we at a minimum put up 23 points against a #6 national scoring D, if guice secures the ball. It is funny how all blame on that goes on coaches. Worst case scenario without jackson and guice screwups is a 23-10 win....worst case. Fluke game...happens....against bama, they were better . Period.

Actually the only people that are right on here are those that said we beat the teams with poor scoring defenses and poor run defenses. That goes for Miles and O. They were the same coach at the end of the day.
Miles beat MooSt and Jacksonville State (this was a VERY good FCs team at the end of the season) and lost to the #4&7 scoring defenses in Whisky and Aubarn. Whisky was the ONLY defense outside of Bama ranked in the Top 10 in both rush and scoring. Not even UF. Auburn was better in rush D than UF and UF was 1 spots better than AuBarn (7 vs 6).
So comparatively taking out Bama and JVille st, Mikes faced better defenses than O for the remainder of the games.

I threw out Bama because of how bad the offense was against them and JVilleSt because they are an FCS school despite the fact that they had only 1 loss outside of LSU.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2738 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:54 am to
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extremetigerfanatic

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O will be measured on the Bama game.


Bama is the best program in college football right now and to measure LSU's program or its coach is not going to happen. Sure every fan and the Administration wants to beat Bama and win championships but no coaching hire will come into the LSU program and dominate Alabama with their recruiting machine

Alabama simply has more talent and depth than any program in college football. The gap between Bama and LSU talent wise is larger than you think. I talking about linemen, linebackers and simply depth. There elite talent goes 3 back into many positions.

Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26149 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:02 am to
Not sold on Etling. He rack up impressive nos. against not so good defenses but looked less than stellar in the two losses
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24329 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:14 am to
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Bama is the best program in college football right now and to measure LSU's program or its coach is not going to happen. Sure every fan and the Administration wants to beat Bama and win championships but no coaching hire will come into the LSU program and dominate Alabama with their recruiting machine

Alabama simply has more talent and depth than any program in college football. The gap between Bama and LSU talent wise is larger than you think. I talking about linemen, linebackers and simply depth. There elite talent goes 3 back into many positions.

take this how you want... I wanted Miles gone since 2009. Couldn't stand him. However, to say we aren't measuring LSU against Bama isn't only what we did to Miles, but it is the ONLY way to measure O.
How is it Freeze got his teams to compete and beat Bama with less talent? It's because of how he attacked them offensively.
That window is now closed. Bama can now score and play great defense.
LSU needs to be offensively as balanced as Ole Miss to stand a chance and that starts with quarterback and receiver play. Plus still play the defense we have the last several years.
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3190 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:27 am to
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Matt Moscona


Nothing personal, but I quit reading right there.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18668 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:10 am to
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Nothing personal, but I quit reading right there.


Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71391 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:31 am to
I like how thinking Danny Etling is a weak starting QB is being a "hater". I get that he's the presumed starter, but it's painfully obvious he a) holds on to the ball way too long, b) has a below average to weak arm, c) does not have a great pocket presence, and d) due to a and c above he takes a beating against every team that can mount a pass rush.

He seems like a good guy and all, but it's an obvious weak starting position on the roster.
Posted by Kedwards1
Monroe
Member since Jul 2017
571 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:08 am to
Lol. You blame etling for the Florida loss?

As for your c.) He had significantly more pocket awareness than Harris or Jennings, and is better than both.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 8:23 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:18 am to
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What does it matter?


Was just curious. Thanks for the info !!! If I had of known it would get you bent out of shape, I wouldn't have asked.

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Ws and Ls are all that matters at the end of the day.


Then why did you make a post with two defensive rankings of ALL 8 teams that CEO and SE faced. You could have just said they lost 2 games and won 6.

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Nothing I can say other than, LSU beat teams that had poor defense from a rush and scoring perspective.


With a TE's coach running the offense. With the head coach and TE's coach not being in their new positions until after a month into the season.

What's the problem?
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 8:50 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:21 am to
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Why must you always try to compare O to miles?


Who mentioned Miles? I don't remember typing that name in my post.

The OP stated:
"Over the last 8 games LSU as a team went from a 111 to 140 passer rating. LSU averaged 37 points per game, compared to just 21 in the first 4 starts. The season changed for the better last year when Etling,O, and Ensminger took over."

Then another poster posts defensive stats for the 8 teams that LSU played to end the season.

To see if LSU really was really that much better the last 8 games you have to compare them to the first four games like is being done in the OP but without the stats the 2nd poster provided for the last 8 teams.

What's the problem? I can almost understand the guy who provided the stats being upset. I don't know how difficult it is to get them. All you had to do is read or not read them. Chill out and don't read them next time if they make you upset.

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Ya know, we fired miles right? He obviously wasn't getting the job done, so why is he your barometer?


Did you even glance over the very first post in this thread and it's subject matter? Or did you just go straight to my post and start crying?

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Fact is, we ran up the score and the stats on sucky defenses, specifically bad run defenses. They get credit for that. Good job O and ensminger.


I'm sure your sincere congratulations will mean a lot to them. Coach O is getting texts since he is at ESPN today, letting him know you give him and SE congrats for beating sucky defenses and bad run defenses. He did get word and is a little bummed that you didn't acknowledge the 3 changes he made to the offense that averaged 37 points in the games he coached last season. Ha Ha

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They stunk it up against the two good defenses They played


Thanks Nostradamus !!! Your cognitive abilities are astounding. They also replaced 3 of the 5 offensive staff members.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:23 am to
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actually they ran all over Florida, they just couldn't stick it in the end zone. I believe we had over 400 yards of offense against them


It was 423 for LSU and 270 for UF. UF's 270 included a fluke one-play 98 yard TD pass play.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:27 am to
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16 points at home against a bunch of UF backups.

It was stinky


You do love crying about the past don't you? Even though Coach O has made changes to the offense that averaged an astounding 37 points per game, you still can only CRY about the UF game. Weird

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stinky


** Wow !!! Great football terminology to go along with your amazing football acumen.

** Sarcasm - it's a hell of a drug.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71391 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:28 am to
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As for your c.) He had significantly more pocket awareness than Harris or Jennings, and is better than both.



That's a mighty fine strawman right there. Please tell me where in any way, shape, or form where I said Harris or Jennings have better pocket awareness than Etling. Just because LSU has had poo at the QB position for so long does not mean the one time we get someone who is slightly less poo (or it can easily be argued probably had superior QB coaching) they are even an above average QB.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:37 am to
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Yep, that was all on O because guice fumbles inside the 5 looking to go up double digits.


I like how they tell you it is an undeniable FACT that Coach O has always been a D-Line coach and never made ONE decision on offense or defense for any team he has coached.

Then all of a sudden in their very next post COACH O is the OFFENSIVE GENIUS who lost the Bama and UF games. The idiots provide non-stop, priceless entertainment !!!
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 8:54 am
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:37 am to
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If LSU goes 11-1 and gives Bama a helluva game, nobody will complain.



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I call bullshite on that, extreme.


Even if LSU does beat Alabama, it won't be enough for the Rantards. The usual suspects will be here to complain and bitch.

This site has become a cesspool of negativity.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10087 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:40 am to
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LSU averaged 37 points per game, compared to just 21 in the first 4 starts "Cam,Miles era".
This is a positive, but realize 50% of "CamMiles Era" contests were vs ranked teams.
Even with a crappy defense, I'll throw in Louisville and give you 37.5% of "SteveO Era" contests ranked.
Your results may be a bit skewed.
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