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re: Since 2007: LSU (2 SEC WC, 2 SECC, 1 NC), Bama (5 SEC WC, 3 SECC, 3 NC)

Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:37 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:37 am to
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If the point of competition isn't to strive to be the best, then what is it?


So the only way to "strive" to be the best is continue to fire coaches year after year?
Thinking that you must win a national title every year isn't realistic or rational. College football is about as cyclical as it gets.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:39 am to
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It wasn't luck.Its football.


So now none of it was luck? But you just said earlier that it was luck, just not more than 2003.

Your posts are literally all over the place tonight. Like I said earlier, I guess pumping gets confusing.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:41 am to
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Auburn in the same time period (exactly the same number of division championships, conference championships, NCs and NC appearances as LSU): 2 SECWC (2010, 2013) 2 SECC (2010, 2013) 1 NC (2010)


Those may the facts you looked up, but I have it on good authority here on the rant that it must be wrong. How do I know? Auburn has fired two coaches during during that span who have gone undefeated and either won a NC or got screwed out of one. We all know good and well that if you fire a coach who once had success, then your program will forever be caught in a tailspin of despair because you were just too spoiled and no good coach will ever want to coach there again. Therefore, having fired Tommy Tuberville in 2008 and Gene Chizik in 2012, Auburn cannot possibly have found a good coach and accomplished anything since they first fired Tuberville.

That Auburn has equaled our performance in these categories over a seven year period in which they have fired two coaches AND had to deal with Nick Saban in the same state says more about us than it does about them.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:44 am to
Anyone that tries to discredit a fricking national championship won by the team you claim to be a fan of is absolutely an imbecile not to take serious.

I mean discrediting national championships? Calling it "lucky". Newsflash-EVERY team is lucky to win a national title because it is absolutely hard and only one team each year wins it.

What is wrong with some of you?
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:44 am to
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There was not a thing in the world wrong with Mike Shula as a head coach.


Shula was 26-23 (53%) as their head coach. Lord Jesus




Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:46 am to
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So the only way to "strive" to be the best is continue to fire coaches year after year?


Nope. No one does that, and no one ever said anyone should. To strive to be the best means that, if you absolutely know that another coach and program in your conference/division is better than yours and will pretty much always be unless you do something about it, then you do something about it. That's what Alabama knew in 2006. And anyone with a brain at LSU knows it right now.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:59 am
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:47 am to
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That Auburn has equaled our performance in these categories over a seven year period in which they have fired two coaches AND had to deal with Nick Saban in the same state says more about us than it does about them.



It says absolutely nothing considering they have equaled our success and fired coaches to do it.
That proves that you don't have to just start firing coaches every year you don't win a championship. That is absolutely ridiculous and you are sounding retarded.

Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 am to
I was at that 2007 game in Tuscaloosa. Looking back, we barely beat them and that was with Shula's players. Chad Jones recovered a fumble but John Parker Wilson played well.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 am to
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Anyone that tries to discredit a fricking national championship won by the team you claim to be a fan of is absolutely an imbecile not to take serious.


What about people that hope the current coach of school a leaves to go to school b, and has great success at school b while school a falls into mediocrity, just so the fans can see what they're missing.

What kind of fans are those?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 am to
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Anyone that tries to discredit a fricking national championship won by the team you claim to be a fan of is absolutely an imbecile not to take serious.


What about people that hope the current coach of school a leaves to go to school b, and has great success at school b while school a falls into mediocrity, just so the fans can see what they're missing.

What kind of fans are those?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 am to
The best thing about this is that nuts4lsu is trying to draw some parallel with Shula at Alabama to les at lsu like these guys are any where near in the same stratosphere in terms of coaching success and program maintenance.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:50 am to
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Shula was 26-23 (53%) as their head coach. Lord Jesu


Under some of the harshest sanctions in college football history while taking over as the fourth different coach in four years, and his two toughest opponents (LSU and Auburn) having their best runs in decades. 90% of coaches wouldn't have done as well as Shula did.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:51 am to
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So now none of it was luck? But you just said earlier that it was luck, just not more than 2003.

Your posts are literally all over the place tonight. Like I said earlier, I guess pumping gets confusing.


Luck to some football to others Regardless you suck for trying to knock down your own teams championship.

That isn't what fans do.

There were a lot of 2 loss teams, that is just how it played out that year. LSU had the best case out of all of them.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:52 am
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:51 am to
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What about people that hope the current coach of school a leaves to go to school b, and has great success at school b while school a falls into mediocrity, just so the fans can see what they're missing.


Who wants that to happen?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:53 am to
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The best thing about this is that nuts4lsu is trying to draw some parallel with Shula at Alabama to les at lsu like these guys are any where near in the same stratosphere in terms of coaching success and program maintenance.


No, there's no real comparison. Shula was probably a better coach, but faced almost impossible circumstances. The point was not a comparison of the two. The point was that no reasonable person considering the circumstances Shula faced and the performance he delivered would ever say that he was a bad coach or deserved to be fired, but that's not the standard at Alabama. They have a higher one.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:53 am to
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Regardless you suck for trying to knock down your own teams championship.


Shouldn't be surprising considering how shitty a decent sized portion of lsu's fanbase is. That guy definitely belongs in there.

Any decent fan that knows a lick about college football would not shite on their own team's national title. What a clown.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:54 am to
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Who wants that to happen?


A freaking TON of Miles supporters, and they have spelled it out exactly as he stated.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:54 am to
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Shula was probably a better coach,


Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:54 am to
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What about people that hope the current coach of school a leaves to go to school b, and has great success at school b while school a falls into mediocrity, just so the fans can see what they're missing.


Hopping something happens and fearing something will happen are two different things

Pnsitigers fear that we will sink into mediocrity if Les goes

Negaters HOPE we sink into mediocrity if Les stays.

Who is enjoying this season more? The ones who like to say i told you so.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:55 am to
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Luck to some football to others


Again, that's not what you said earlier in this thread.

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Regardless you suck for trying to knock down your own teams championship


And once again, straight from your own fingers in this thread:

Or getting to play the #3 team in the polls because the BCS loved Oklahoma for some reason.

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