- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Shaq saying Mickey and Martin should have stayed another year.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/20/15 at 8:38 am
He was on 104.5 this morning. I've always thought Martin was NBA ready, but Mickey is the guy getting all the praise from his play in summer league. I know it's just summer league, but does Shaq know what he is talking about, or should he stick to playing basketball (or retirement)?
14
Posted on 7/20/15 at 8:49 am to UserName69
quote:
He was on 104.5 this morning. I've always thought Martin was NBA ready, but Mickey is the guy getting all the praise from his play in summer league. I know it's just summer league, but does Shaq know what he is talking about, or should he stick to playing basketball (or retirement)?
Shaq knows if they would have stayed, We would have been a favorite to win a title.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 8:52 am to UserName69
Well, his current job is a NBA analyst. That doesn't necessarily make him a good talent evaluator, but he's atleast operating within the scope of his current job description.
I think both players could have benefited from another year in college But the advantages of being a professional, no 20 hour practice limit/access to pro coaches and trainers, can't be understated.
I think both players could have benefited from another year in college But the advantages of being a professional, no 20 hour practice limit/access to pro coaches and trainers, can't be understated.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 8:58 am to UserName69
Everyone knows they should have stayed but they didn't so who cares.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:01 am to UserName69
If Mickey would have stayed we would almost be a final four lock. Martin kinda plays the same role as Simmons so it'd be interesting to see all three play at the same time on the court
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:01 am to UserName69
quote:
does Shaq know what he is talking about
Does Shaq know about basketball? Nah...
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:04 am to UserName69
You could argue both ways. Martin was a first round pick, so it's tough to say he made the wrong decision. Plus, his numbers would have gone down next year with Simmons coming in. Martin is a good player with a chance to develop into a very good player. But Simmons is everything Martin is, just A LOT more skilled. Simmons basically would have taken Martin's role as a "stretch 4".
Mickey probably would have benefited from playing with Simmons, but the question is would his draft stock have increased much by staying one more year? I doubt it. He still would have had the same physical strengths/limitations next year. He maybe would have gone from an early 2nd round pick to a late first rounding, but that wouldn't have been a guarantee.
Hindsight being 20/20, it's hard to say either made the wrong decision to leave
Mickey probably would have benefited from playing with Simmons, but the question is would his draft stock have increased much by staying one more year? I doubt it. He still would have had the same physical strengths/limitations next year. He maybe would have gone from an early 2nd round pick to a late first rounding, but that wouldn't have been a guarantee.
Hindsight being 20/20, it's hard to say either made the wrong decision to leave
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:04 am to UserName69
Shaw has one of the best head on his shoulders out of any athlete in the last few decades. He stayed an extra year despite being the #1 overall pick. Became a movie star, created businesses, tried to do a rap career...the dude is a bright bright guy.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:05 am to UserName69
The question whether Mickey and Martin would be better off in school for another year or better off on NBA teams this year will be a question we ask ourselves all year. The thing about it is there's no way to decide if the move they both made was right or wrong.
Personally, if they both are able to make an NBA roster and get some time, they made the right decision. From there, they will need to continue to be hungry and improve every day. With the way Rookie contracts are drawn up, the big money comes from second contracts anyway, so they will need to improve themselves.
I don't think another year of college basketball would prepare them for their second contracts as much as being with an NBA team, but you have to make that NBA team so you can really learn what it's like to be in the NBA.
Personally, if they both are able to make an NBA roster and get some time, they made the right decision. From there, they will need to continue to be hungry and improve every day. With the way Rookie contracts are drawn up, the big money comes from second contracts anyway, so they will need to improve themselves.
I don't think another year of college basketball would prepare them for their second contracts as much as being with an NBA team, but you have to make that NBA team so you can really learn what it's like to be in the NBA.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:06 am to UserName69
If they both would have stayed Johnny Jones would have been run out of town if we at least didn't make the final four.
Martin and Mickey on a team with Simmons, Blakeney Hornsby, Quarterman, Patterson, Victor, etc...would have been straight unfair.
Martin probably was where he was going to be at to be drafted, Mickey left too early. If he would have dominated a whole year like he was capable of he wouldnt have had to use the NBA-predraft to build the majority of what stock he had up after a terrible ending to what was a good season.
Martin and Mickey on a team with Simmons, Blakeney Hornsby, Quarterman, Patterson, Victor, etc...would have been straight unfair.
Martin probably was where he was going to be at to be drafted, Mickey left too early. If he would have dominated a whole year like he was capable of he wouldnt have had to use the NBA-predraft to build the majority of what stock he had up after a terrible ending to what was a good season.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:08 am to Alt26
I down voted you... Meant to upvote
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:10 am to Pnels08
It's the best of the morning show all this week because they are on vacation.
That interview was from months ago and at the time he was probably right; however, in hindsight, Martin got a guaranteed contract and I don't know that Mickey improves his stock much more and went early 2nd round and did well with Boston in summer league.
That interview was from months ago and at the time he was probably right; however, in hindsight, Martin got a guaranteed contract and I don't know that Mickey improves his stock much more and went early 2nd round and did well with Boston in summer league.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:10 am to UserName69
Wasn't that a replayed segment from last month or something?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:41 am to Alt26
quote:
his numbers would have gone down next year with Simmons coming in.
I don't agree with this at all. Simmons is a phenomenal passer, that will be able to create space and open shots. He will be a point forward. Nothing like Martin at all.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:47 am to UserName69
You do know that,was a "best of" show. That interview was from right after they declared. Of course hindsight is 20/20 but that's how shaq felt back then.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:48 am to LSUButt
quote:
..the dude is a bright bright guy
He has a Doctorate degree too, which most of us don't.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:49 am to UserName69
That interview was given before the summer. They are playing the best of Culotta and Ponamsky all this week.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:51 am to wilceaux
quote:
Shaq saying Mickey and Martin should have stayed another year.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:54 am to UserName69
quote:
does Shaq know what he is talking about, or should he stick to playing basketball (or retirement)?
You do know he is an NBA analyst for TNT, right?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:02 am to UserName69
He just WISHES they would have stayed
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News