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re: SEC OLine comparison - 2 deep
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:18 pm to SportTiger1
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:18 pm to SportTiger1
i don't know how they rank these players but i call bull shite on what they rank LSU
individual athleticism they are up to par with the best
coordination, communication, and teamwork? last
individual athleticism they are up to par with the best
coordination, communication, and teamwork? last
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:19 pm to doya2
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That IS our roster.
wait you really think we have 8-9 olineman on the roster?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It's not all on coaching.....true freshmen are not really ready mentally or physically...
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:25 pm to SportTiger1
The only gripe I have is to also add a category for length of time with the offensive coordinator. Our O-line has clearly taken a few steps back learning a new offense. Had way more of an impact than all of us accounted for. But I agree, that is solely on the coaches, and they should better prepare the players to win, whatever that takes. 
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:27 pm to Robbytiger
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It's not all on coaching.....true freshmen are not really ready mentally or physically...
its never 100% on one thing. but when our players are getting pushed around by troy and i can see from a tv broadcast that our oline have crap hand placement and footwork, i have to question how committed to detail and fundamentals our staff is. grimes has to go.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:29 pm to doya2
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Problem is, several of those teams have 5-8 others on the roster.
That IS our roster.
This is the truth. When you have to choose 5 out of 11 it's very, very tough. More than likely, you'll have a significant liability or two. The failure rate on OL, even highly ranked ones is pretty high. You need enough of them to ensure you have quality options.
LSU currently has 11 scholarship offensive lineman.
It gets worse. Of LSU's 11, three are true freshman...four are 2nd year players. That means LSU only has 4 upperclassmen on the OL roster.
But, you shouldn't have to do this analysis to recognize the problem. It's very, very obvious when watching the game. It's as if some of you don't want to believe the obvious.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:29 pm to UpToPar
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We need to just sticky these threads. I'm tired of having to search for them when some idiot inevitably throws out one of these lame excuses.
It's not going to get stickied. Copy the pics and someone post them every so often.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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wait you really think we have 8-9 olineman on the roster?
We have 11 scholarship OL.
3 true freshman, 4 2nd year players, 3 juniors, 1 senior.
Do you think that is adequate for the SEC?
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:37 pm to moneyg
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We have 11 scholarship OL. Do you think those are sufficient numbers for a program in the SEC?
then blame o for letting people transfer.
blame him for not going after juco olineman.
blame him for not offering more oline instead of almost losing our 2 committed qbs by offering a qb that was never coming here.
and lets be honest, there are dozens of div 1 programs with less 2 deep oline talent than lsu that field a decent oline.
and 3rd teamers only matter with injuries. we are still healthy.
and it still doesnt explain troy pushing our STARTERS around. thats what youre not understanding.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:39 pm to SportTiger1
Yep and what about the half dozen that transferred or left this year??
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:40 pm to SportTiger1
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Not sure why I'm still trying to convince people...
There are plenty of people who appreciate your posts. Keep it up.
Just don't expect facts to change the mind of Rantards.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:40 pm to PUB
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Yep and what about the half dozen that transferred or left this year??
thats on this roster. did you read the op?
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:43 pm to moneyg
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We have 11 scholarship OL.
3 true freshman, 4 2nd year players, 3 juniors, 1 senior.
Do you think that is adequate for the SEC?
its more than adequate for a sunbelt team.
thats what youre not understanding.
these issues are valid excuses for bama, auburn,and uga.
not for a sunbelt team with ZERO TOP 95 CLASSES SINCE 2014.
also its not like they didnt push our STARTERS AROUND from beginning to end.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:44 pm to Robbytiger
Normally but would this apply for offensive lines? I mean you are a big guy already. It's more about learning better technique correct?
My issue is why isn't Deculus starting? If anyone got talked about during the recruiting cycle about being ready to play from day 1 it was him.
With him, Clapp moving to C, Alexander starting and Battle starting, I'm thinking the staff isn't fielding the best personnel.
My issue is why isn't Deculus starting? If anyone got talked about during the recruiting cycle about being ready to play from day 1 it was him.
With him, Clapp moving to C, Alexander starting and Battle starting, I'm thinking the staff isn't fielding the best personnel.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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then blame o for letting people transfer.
So, you agree there is a major talent/depth problem? Why were you pretending that wasn't the case?
I'll never figure out why you'll be dishonest in your assessment of the team simply because you want to make Orgeron look bad. I can, and have, offered many reasons why Orgeron was a bad hire. I don't need to pretend that we don't have OL talent issues like you and the OP though.
The truth is this. Until those freshman mature into solid players (they are probably a year away from that at best) we are going to have significant OL problems...and that assumes we end up with 3 starters in that group...which is probably a long shot. It could easily be 2 years (assuming solid recruiting) before LSU fields an above average SEC OL.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:44 pm to FightinTiga
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LSU needs more high motor large heart players
Lol
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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and 3rd teamers only matter with injuries. we are still healthy.
This is dumb.
We have guys who should be 3rd teamers who are starting or backups due to the numbers. Thats where the numbers kill you. When you have fewer options, you end up with a lesser product.
Do you think Sadiiq Charles or Ed Ingram are legit starters? Do you think Adrian Magee is a legit starter?
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we are still healthy
What world do you live in? Weathersby didn't play on Saturday. Donavauhn Campbell was out for a while. Magee was out for a while. Even Clapp was pretty questionable heading into the season even though he has held up.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:49 pm to PaperTiger
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My issue is why isn't Deculus starting? If anyone got talked about during the recruiting cycle about being ready to play from day 1 it was him.
What does your brain tell you? You think they just forgot about him? Do you think they are waiting for something?
Or, is it possible that he's not what you (and others) thought he would be at this stage. If he's not playing on this OL, it's a bad, bad sign. That means he's a long way from being ready.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
???
Where are Allen, Teuhema ??
Where are Allen, Teuhema ??
Posted on 10/3/17 at 5:52 pm to moneyg
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We have 11 scholarship OL.
3 true freshman, 4 2nd year players, 3 juniors, 1 senior.
Do you think that is adequate for the SEC?
What I do know is Les Miles had to start a true frosh at LT his first season and moved 3 guys from defensive line to offensive line because Saban didn't recruit the oline his last two years here.
I also know that we loaded up on a shite load in that 06 class and still only a couple of guys panned out. Yet, we could still run the freaking ball and not lose to Troy.
Guess what happened when the 04 and 05 classes were upperclassmen? The 08 season.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 5:56 pm
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