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re: Saban - year 3 at LSU got blown out multiple times
Posted on 10/11/22 at 9:55 am to Adajax
Posted on 10/11/22 at 9:55 am to Adajax
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In his fifth and final LSU lost 5.
No, sir. In 2004, Saban's fifth and final season, LSU went 9-3. The three losses were @ Auburn, a very controversial 9-10 loss, a 16-45 beatdown @ Georgia, and a last-play upset by Iowa in the Capitol One Bowl on New Year's 2005.
The Georgia defeat had an uncanny resemblance to this past Saturday's blowout loss to Tennessee. Georgia was not that much better team than LSU that year, but like Tennessee this year, the Dawgs enjoyed a bye-week advantage; LSU plastered Miss. State 51-0 at home the week that Georgia rested. And like this year's Tenn game, LSU was plagued by special teams errors, the most glaring being Xavier Hill's botched kickoff return.
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:07 am to lsupride87
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Or how about we get a little more modern considering the rule changes in college football
Heupel at Tennessee in year 2
Heupel is a fair comparison. He too came into a shite show and what he's done at Tennessee has been pretty impressive.
I'm not expecting that big of a turn-around in year 2 for Kelly but we can hope.
It will be an interesting comparison at the end of next year. UT still has the meat of their schedule ahead and we need to see how much LSU can improve from now until next season.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:08 am to Tigerstark
I'll get the DV's but dont care.
The state of the program is vastly different. Also, Saban wasn't entitled to the transfer portal with an NIL budget. I am not shitting on BK till year 3 which is more than reasonable with the money he has to work with.
I'm not loving everything I am seeing by BK though and that's okay. He's showing an element of stubbornness, eerily similar to Les. They picked a QB with a lower ceiling to develop in a rebuild year whilst having a much better QB ride the pine. We lose Nuss this year, then next year will be very similar because JD will get the start Howard aint getting it yet... "young, inexperienced" or whatever else the coach speak is.
Time will tell
The state of the program is vastly different. Also, Saban wasn't entitled to the transfer portal with an NIL budget. I am not shitting on BK till year 3 which is more than reasonable with the money he has to work with.
I'm not loving everything I am seeing by BK though and that's okay. He's showing an element of stubbornness, eerily similar to Les. They picked a QB with a lower ceiling to develop in a rebuild year whilst having a much better QB ride the pine. We lose Nuss this year, then next year will be very similar because JD will get the start Howard aint getting it yet... "young, inexperienced" or whatever else the coach speak is.
Time will tell
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:16 am to Tigerstark
Sure I'm not the first to point out in '02 that the loss to Va Tech was Mauck's first start and we had a buttload of drops.
But we got it together and blew UF out in the Swamp. Then Mauck got hurt.
Both the Auburn and Bama losses were without the starting QB.
If the point of this thread was to somehow excuse CBK's bad decision making against Saban's low spots, it should be mentioned that Saban was about 10 yrs younger then than CBK, had just won an SEC, and would go on to win about 4 natty's by the time he was CBK's present age.
But we got it together and blew UF out in the Swamp. Then Mauck got hurt.
Both the Auburn and Bama losses were without the starting QB.
If the point of this thread was to somehow excuse CBK's bad decision making against Saban's low spots, it should be mentioned that Saban was about 10 yrs younger then than CBK, had just won an SEC, and would go on to win about 4 natty's by the time he was CBK's present age.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:18 am to Tigerstark
That was 20 years ago for Saban
This is it for Kelly. Its his last rodeo. He doesnt have the time to slow roll this thing
This is it for Kelly. Its his last rodeo. He doesnt have the time to slow roll this thing
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:19 am to AlwysATgr
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Sure I'm not the first to point out in '02 that the loss to Va Tech was Mauck's first start and we had a buttload of drops.
But we got it together and blew UF out in the Swamp. Then Mauck got hurt.
Both the Auburn and Bama losses were without the starting QB.
W can find lots of excuses in Kelly's losses here as well. The record is what it is.
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t should be mentioned that Saban was about 10 yrs younger then than CBK, had just won an SEC, and would go on to win about 4 natty's by the time he was CBK's present age.
I don't think many here are trying to compare him to what Saban has done. I think this thread is for all the numbnuts that have already decided that Kelly ill be nothing more than a failure since we started out 4-2 in the first year of a massive rebuild because the last coach fricked us.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:33 am to The First Cut
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The First Cut
I’d be fascinated to learn if you hold yourself to same impossible standards you’re trying to hold CBK to.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:42 am to Chimlim
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His gameday coaching does leave a few questions, but this man is going to need a few years to get this program back
Fans underestimate the scope of the rebuild project LSU is going through. It’s not just filling the cupboard with elite talent and depth, it’s rebuilding the entire staff, culture, and mentality. It involves Jr and Sr class leaders who have come up through the program. Players who have been in the system and developed trust and relationships with the coaching staff, and have had the system ingrained in them. When you see consistently successful programs thats what’s behind them. Saban, Kirby, Dabo, etc. It took them a few seasons to get there.
USC is off to a hot start with Riley, but I expect USC will be just another Oklahoma, with stud QBs and high scoring offenses in a soft conference that gets manhandled in the playoffs against talented physical teams that had to grind through a tougher schedule.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 4:21 pm to LSBoosie
4,000 plus kids enter the transfer portal each year. Over half remain unsigned, or stay where they were. You listed 5 kids... and with the exception of Addison, all were under new coaching regimes.
My point still stands. The overwhelming majority of the kids in the portal are 2nd tier kids on 2nd tier teams.
And Eli Ricks... dude chased money and fame, but found neither. He can kick rocks.
My point still stands. The overwhelming majority of the kids in the portal are 2nd tier kids on 2nd tier teams.
And Eli Ricks... dude chased money and fame, but found neither. He can kick rocks.
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