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re: Russell Shepard is in the NFL because of CLM

Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:56 pm to
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I knew more football than you when i was 10. You havent proven shite in the way of footbal iq.


This coming from the guy that says the broad jump, vertical jump and now bench press are not indicators of explosiveness, despite the fact that nfl scouts use those 3 variables in a formula to measure a players explosiveness.

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Uh. Again. I posted his 3 cone #'s dumbass. The nfl said he should switch. you dont know shite




You can't even read your own links properly. The link that clearly states scouts THINK cb COULD be his best position. Nowhere does it say he SHOULD switch, and the nfl has had him playing WR for the last 2 years so that is clearly not what they said. You're posting more LIES, not FACTS
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:59 pm to
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Something wrong with liking miles as the coach of my alma mater? You are trying to act like I should be ashamed of supporting him as coach and supporting the program. That's ridiculous.


Why are you changing the subject? You said your posts are only defending the program, not miles. I linked 2 posts from this thread alone that show that to be false. God knows there are hundreds more. I guess pumping gets confusing
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:03 pm to
I like miles as coach. I like the lsu program. I will defend my liking of both those things.
My post said that I'm not defending miles as a person because I don't know him. But I like him as Lsu's coach. Sounds like you have comprehension problems.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:04 pm to
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He didnt get on the field because he wasn't even the 6th best skill position player during any of his years at lsu.


Please tell me how this refutes the fact that Shepard wasn't on the field to showcase his skills like king pumper claimed he was able to do by switching positions.

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Bruh, you havent shown any football knowledge. Not one bit.


Coming from you, the guy arguing the broad jump and vertical jump are not measures of explosiveness, I take that as a compliment.

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All you do is bash the program. Thats it..keep bashing a program youre supposed to be a fan of.


All you do is pump sunshine. You used to at least have the balls to try to defend your pumpings, but that's not even the case anymore. It's kind of sad really.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:09 pm to
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I like miles as coach. I like the lsu program. I will defend my liking of both those things. My post said that I'm not defending miles as a person because I don't know him. But I like him as Lsu's coach. Sounds like you have comprehension problems.


Your post said you were defending the program under him. So, once again, explain how those 2 posts I linked from this thread are defenses of the program under miles, not just miles himself.

I also recall you stating earlier that you don't defend miles because he doesn't need defending. Yet above you just admitted to defending miles. Hmmmmmm
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:11 pm to
You got me bro.

Not sure what your problem is but it's hilarious how butt hurt you are about people being fans of a successful coach and program.

Really makes you look like an idiot. But sounds like you are ok with it.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:26 pm to
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This coming from the guy that says the broad jump, vertical jump and now bench press are not indicators of explosiveness, despite the fact that nfl scouts use those 3 variables in a formula to measure a players explosiveness. [

i was talking about agility and shiftiness not JUST EXPLOSIVENESS.
learn stuff
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You can't even read your own links properly. The link that clearly states scouts THINK cb COULD be his best position. Nowhere does it say he SHOULD switch, and the nfl has had him playing WR for the last 2 years so that is clearly not what they said. You're posting more LIES, not FACTS

I read the scouting report.
What the hell do you know about football? shite it what you know.
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:29 pm to
We tried him at QB
We tried him at KR
We tried him at WR
We tried him at RB

I guess we could have put him on DL for few games and see if he could produce in the SEC
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41293 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:32 pm to
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We tried him at QB
We tried him at KR
We tried him at WR
We tried him at RB

I guess we could have put him on DL for few games and see if he could produce in the SEC


"Open Your Eyes" is going to melt after this post. He says lsu didn't try to play Shepard enough.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4872 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:41 pm to
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He just wasnt that dynamic with the ball.


Name a LSU player who had a higher YPC with an equal (or greater) amount of carries.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Name a LSU player who had a higher YPC with an equal (or greater) amount of carries


You realize the more carries you get, the lower your ypc usually gets right? Thats why the sec and ncaa have miminum carries as a prerequisite for records.

In this thread i named 6 better skill position players than Shep for every lsu team he was on. Should we take carries or rec away from better players to give to shep?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:49 pm to
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Exactly. Lsu tried every thing to get the ball to shep. He just wasnt that dynamic with the ball. We tried wr bubble screens, screen passes out of the backfield, direct handoffs and throwing the ball to him


He was awesome out of the backfield actually. Hell, as a freshman he would disappear from games after being our most productive player. UGA and MSU comes to mind

In 2011, he only had 7 carries. Can't really say that we made an attempt to give him the ball that year.

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You realize the more carries you get, the lower your ypc usually gets right? Thats why the sec and ncaa have miminum carries as a prerequisite for records.



Right, but you can't say he wasn't dynamic with the ball when he produced when he had the ball
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4872 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Should we take carries or rec away from better players to give to shep?


In certain circumstances, yes. It depends on the matchup. Different players have different skill sets that are more effective at certain times against certain opponents. Shepard had the skill set to complement the inside running game (the perimeter plays also bolster the between-the-tackles running game) by stretching defenses on the outside. I've made my case before on how and why Shepard should've gotten the ball more in a niche role in the running game. I'm not going to go through it again with a weirdo alter.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 6:00 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Hell, as a freshman he would disappear from games after being our most productive player. UGA and MSU comes to mind


Because we had better players. Lafell
Randle
Toliver
Charles scott
Ford
Ridley.

Yes he took a couole handoffs and got yards. Yes he wouldve gotten more yards and playing time in a spread offense, but lets not act like he was this great player that sat behind scrubs.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:58 pm to
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ok pumper
explain how it's otherwise

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Which of Alabama's 3 bcs titles is laughed at? Or disputed in any way?
you know very well that's not the titles he and i are referring to.

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they're nothing but subjective crap
yep. they are. lsu is only doing what every other school does. but they're still subjective crap.

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lsu's 2011 season outcome over alabama's 2011 season outcome
i understand you think you're being insightful with this perspective. but you're not. bama got a subjective mulligan game after a controversial vote. lsu beat them at their place straight up, had a better season and won the sec championship game.

i noticed that you chickened out on my challenge. nice job braveheart.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:59 pm to
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Because we had better players


Yet they weren't playing better in those games, especially MSU.

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Lafell
Randle
Toliver


Didn't realize they play in the backfield.

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Charles scott
Ford
Ridley.


Ford and Ridley had zero carries any either of those games. He was a different style of back.

RS was our leading back against MSU with 4 carries for 27 yards, all in the 1st half. We finished with 30 yards rushing for the game

He was benched against UGA as our leading back for a fumble that wasn't actually a fumble

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Yes he took a couole handoffs and got yards. Yes he wouldve gotten more yards and playing time in a spread offense, but lets not act like he was this great player that sat behind scrubs.



Not saying that at all. I'm saying that he was productive early on out of the backfield for us, and then would disappear from games. He was a good shotgun back for us as a freshman.

You can run a prostyle offense and find use for a guy like him out of the backfield.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:02 pm to
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Go find an analyst that claimed Alabama didn't deserve to be in the bcs championship game
who cares what they think? are you going to side with them when they say there was a "split" in '03? which there wasn't.

if you're going to continue to appeal to that game, why can't lsu say "best 2 out of 3"? they would be perfectly justified in doing so.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:04 pm to
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'sec championship > national championship' pumper anthem
he didn't say better. he said more objective. and he's right. you're wrong. still. but keep up the good fight sisyphus.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:10 pm to
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the problems this program has getting a balanced offense
parroting the meme

same old worn out junk
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:12 pm to
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cowering
let me know when you work up the courage to address my challenge balls mcsteel
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