re: Ruling on SELA catcher tossing ball to his dugout

Is the play not dead when the fan touches it?

I remember when Larry Walker threw a ball in the stands and he tried to get it back.

There is timeout in baseball. I dont know any other way to state that.

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There is timeout in baseball. I dont know any other way to state that.

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what else would you call it?

So what would have happened if Hale came home as well? That's my question. Would the catcher have to run over to the coach and retrieve it? Obviously the coach couldnt toss it to him.

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Would the catcher have to run over to the coach and retrieve it?

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i can see this going like a kid interrupting his parent when the are having a conversation..

Catcher: coach, gimme the ball
coach: not now kid, I'm talking
Catcher: but coach, i really need the ball
Coach: what did i tell you about interrupting me?

Well actually I remember this one. It was Benny Agbayani for the Mets a while back:

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On August 12, 2000 while a member of the Mets, Agbayani was involved in a particularly memorable play. In the fourth inning, with the Mets leading 1-0, the Giants loaded the bases after a double, an error, and a hit batsman. With one out, Giants catcher Bobby Estalella hit a fly pop to Agbayani in left field. Agbayani, thinking that the catch made three outs, gave the ball to a child in the stands and began to trot toward the dugout. It took him a moment to realize his mistake, but once he did, he sprinted back to the stands, pulled the ball from the hands of the young fan he had given it to, and fired a throw toward home plate. Unfortunately for Agbayani, once the ball left the field, the play was dead, and all three runners were awarded two bases—causing Jeff Kent and Ellis Burks to score, and the Giants to take the lead, 2-1. The Mets went on to win the game, 3-2, and Agbayani gave another ball to the fan who had given the previous one back.

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So that says it was dead and everyone gets two bases. The umps never ruled the play dead though while it was going on (sorry this is referring to the LSU play last night). Typically they would put their hands up and tell the runners which base they are being awarded, but that didn't happen.

Maybe once the 3 got together they ruled it dead and determined everyone should get two bases? But technically the ball also never left the field of play. The coach picked it up in FRONT of the dugout.

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I wish i could hear what the coach was arguing. He just kept holding the ball up with two fingers like he was showing off a blood diamond.

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This is awesome

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becomes dead once it crosses the point that was discussed in the ground rules meeting

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It never did. Coach was outside the dugout.

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He just kept holding the ball up with two fingers like he was showing off a blood diamond.

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i want this pic !