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re: Ron Cooper to Tampa Bay

Posted on 2/24/12 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78941 posts
Posted on 2/24/12 at 3:13 pm to
Yup, that is a loss. Will be tough to find someone to fill those big shoes, but gotta keep the faith!



Anyone hear any rumblings about who it's been narrowed down to? Any rumors perhaps?
Posted by Water Mocassin
SoCal
Member since Feb 2005
2608 posts
Posted on 2/24/12 at 3:31 pm to
It won`t be Raymond,he`s staying at Nebraska.
Posted by paperstreet
Member since Feb 2011
7434 posts
Posted on 2/24/12 at 5:22 pm to
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It won`t be Raymond,he`s staying at Nebraska.

Yep.

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LINCOLN - Nebraska defensive backs coach Corey Raymond said Friday that he's not interested in a defensive backs job opening at LSU, his alma mater.

"I'm not going to take that job," said Raymond, dressed head-to-toe in Nebraska gear while attending the Big Ten Track and Field Championships with Husker defensive grad assistant T.J. Hollowell. "I told (LSU) I wasn't going to come down there and do any interviews."

Raymond said his 14-year-old son, Chris, particularly liked Lincoln.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6936 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 7:18 am to
Well, I live in Virginia Beach and still talk w/Justin and his Uncle, and DJ for that matter. LSU dropped the ball on this one. DJ was trying to still help LSU even after he was off the staff, not the other way around. DJ was telling Uncle Mike that Justin should stay with his LSU commitment.

Tennessee flies in Dooley AND the track coach AND the position coach and steals him away at the last minute. Justin will be in the Olympics one day and I couldn't even get the LSU track coach to call him. Total BS recruiting effort!!!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59086 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 10:38 am to
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Maybe my impression is wrong, but I just don't see a pattern of rapid or even timely response to filling key staff vacancies with first quality coaches. Shouldn't there be some kind of on-going, unofficial "fishing" out there in coach-land - knowing that staff vacancies are always coming up? Then you wouldn't necessarily have to start off on square 1 every time.


What you are doing is confirming what you want to see. First of all you mention 3 situations where you think Miles moved slow, what about the other staff hires he made? Replacing Fisher with Crowton? Hiring Chavis? Adding Cooper, Gonzalez, Wilson? How long did those take? Also how do the 3 hires you keep bring up compare to other hires at other schools?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22496 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 5:20 pm to
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What you are doing is confirming what you want to see.
No, not what I want to see - but what it looks like to me, or what it "feels" like - as I believe "my impression" of a pattern is what I said...
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Maybe my impression is wrong...
So maybe my impression is wrong. And maybe I'm really remembering how long he took to make the changes that everybody knew needed making - For instance - it took what seemed like forever to replace Malveto. And how long was he in replacing Crowton (the OC who allegedly was also QB coach, when in fact that was clearly not happening based on visible and statistical QB results - thus the QB coaching position was de facto vacant and everybody who was watching could see that). And it seems like I remember reading threads here asking "when?" would this or that coaching position finally be filled. One of those times it was filled with Malveto.

So forgive me if I'm not as patient as the wise ones here, or uninformed as compared with most of you geniuses, or if I have a wrong impression. Clearly you guys have a far greater ability to discern what is happening at all levels and at all times.

I'm just never totally confident of *CLM's timing in hiring new coaches. Sometimes it is circumstances, sometimes it seems like it's him. Sorry if that bothers you (I am answering a bunch of responses by more ranters here than just yours H-Town, so please bear with me).
This post was edited on 2/25/12 at 5:23 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59086 posts
Posted on 2/25/12 at 5:56 pm to
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No, not what I want to see


For crying out loud Greg Brady, I don't mean you literally want it to happen, just that you have this "impression" in mind and are looking for things to confirm your impression and walla, you find them.

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For instance - it took what seemed like forever to replace Malveto. And how long was he in replacing Crowton (the OC who allegedly was also QB coach, when in fact that was clearly not happening based on visible and statistical QB results - thus the QB coaching position was de facto vacant and everybody who was watching could see that).


I think here is your disconnect. Are you counting as time to replace the time these guys were on staff and you wanted them gone? That's not what I'm talking about. The fact you (along with many others including me) were unhappy with Crowtons development of QB's is a different issue. You could argue they needed a QB coach, but the fact that they didn't have one does not mean it was an "open" position for a long time. That's a different issue from the current DB coach opening, which is a vacancy they will fill.

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So forgive me if I'm not as patient as the wise ones here, or uninformed as compared with most of you geniuses, or if I have a wrong impression. Clearly you guys have a far greater ability to discern what is happening at all levels and at all times


There is no need for you to be condescending. Cooper left on what Wednesday night? That there was not a replacement named Thursday morning is not a sign Miles is dragging his feet. I'm not sure how long it was from the departure of Crowton until Krags was hired or if it took a really long time. As for Chavis, iirc he was hired before the we played GT in the CFA bowl. I don't know how much sooner you think he should have been hired.

If we don't have a DB coach by St Pats day, come talk to me about it taking a long time, until then relax and see what happens.
Posted by NW Tiger
Member since Dec 2004
1698 posts
Posted on 2/26/12 at 5:50 pm to
Who the hell is Ron Cooper, never heard of him.
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