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re: Recruiting or the lack there of Pro-Style QB's?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:55 pm to TigerBert
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:55 pm to TigerBert
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Duel Threat guys rarely develop into SEC Championship QB's.
Dual-threat guys who try and get forced into a pro-style offense rarely develop into championship QBs
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:08 pm to Nissanmaxima
I think the problem here is two fold. first off LA doesn't produce many pro-style or any-style big time major CFB QBs. Name the one's over the last 10 years. List is super short. Thus, we have to go OOS state which we have found difficult to do with so many good offenses out there especially in Texas where we would have our best chance of pulling a good QB. Mett OOS, Flynn OOS, Russell OOS, Mauk OOS, Davey OOS. Texas produces tons of QBs but its becoming increasingly difficult to pull them from all of the passing offense schools that are populating Texas these days when we are clearly a run-first offense.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:30 pm to Nissanmaxima
There is a quarterback in La. like the one you want ! He is 6'7" weighs 225 and has a cannon for an arm. He completes 65% of his passes and threw for 3,000 yds. this year. 35 tds and 4 ints. His name is Matthew Beck and he was not offered by LSU Football but Paul Maneiri signed him to play baseball. He could play QB for LSU today ! 
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:26 am to loopdog
you people are idiots
Posted on 12/5/15 at 2:21 am to boxcar willie
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you people are idiots
Yes. WE are.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 2:33 am to Nissanmaxima
We do not run a pro style offense. Show me an NFL team that pounds the ball 70% of the time. It's time for the "pro-style" myth to die.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:31 pm to someoldhussy
Miles doesn't know what he want's at QB. They have no idea what to with a QB when they do sign one.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 12:53 pm to boxcar willie
You're an Idiot ! 
Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:02 pm to PortCityTiger24
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quote: can someone define "pro style QB"? White - that's it
Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:11 pm to SammyTiger
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quote: Duel Threat guys rarely develop into SEC Championship QB's. Les disagrees Tim Tebow Cam Newton Nick Marshall Blake Sims
All of those dudes had coaches who played to their strengths and covered their weaknesses.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:12 pm to mikelowery1911
Here is a definition of pro-style:
-A qb who is fluid in 3, 5, and 7 step drops from under center.
-One who consistently has a 3-4 route tree on any given passing down that starts from dominant throwing arm across the field.
-One who can utilize pro-style concepts such as check-offs at the line of scrimmage and hot routes to create mismatches in coverage, he does not use set play calls to determine his routes but what the defense gives him.
-Has a quick, effortless release and is able to use touch passes to give his WR YAC.
-A qb who is fluid in 3, 5, and 7 step drops from under center.
-One who consistently has a 3-4 route tree on any given passing down that starts from dominant throwing arm across the field.
-One who can utilize pro-style concepts such as check-offs at the line of scrimmage and hot routes to create mismatches in coverage, he does not use set play calls to determine his routes but what the defense gives him.
-Has a quick, effortless release and is able to use touch passes to give his WR YAC.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/6/15 at 1:25 pm to L S Usetheforce
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-A qb who is fluid in 3, 5, and 7 step drops from under center. -One who consistently has a 3-4 route tree on any given passing down that starts from dominant throwing arm across the field. -One who can utilize pro-style concepts such as check-offs at the line of scrimmage and hot routes to create mismatches in coverage, he does not use set play calls to determine his routes but what the defense gives him. -Has a quick, effortless release and is able to use touch passes to give his WR YAC.
Well we are trying to recruit two of the best QB's in the country in Haskins and Eason, but I doubt we get them. Also tried for Shea Patterson but not getting him. Those three probably fit your definition. Not sure which ones are white or which ones play "pro style". Also trying for Felipe Franks. If we bomb on all those, which looks like we will, then I hope we would go after Lindsey Scott. Although I don't think those guys are considered white or even "pro style". But they might be better than what we have now, or maybe not.
You "pro style" guys have anyone in particular in mind that you think we should be pursuring that are better and that may come to LSU?
I'm sure coach Miles would like to know about them if there is some secret really good QB you know about that might would come to LSU. You should get in touch with him about this info you have.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:49 pm to baobabtiger
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All of those dudes had coaches who played to their strengths and covered their weaknesses.
Be careful with the use of "ALL". Sometimes HS Coaches have guys who can run a pro style, but are really hiding the Coaches "weakness" not the QBs.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:56 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Here is a definition of pro-style: -A qb who is fluid in 3, 5, and 7 step drops from under center. -One who consistently has a 3-4 route tree on any given passing down that starts from dominant throwing arm across the field. -One who can utilize pro-style concepts such as check-offs at the line of scrimmage and hot routes to create mismatches in coverage, he does not use set play calls to determine his routes but what the defense gives him. -Has a quick, effortless release and is able to use touch passes to give his WR YAC.
Many modern spread systems have all of these concepts built into them. Progressions that don't depend on the "dominant arm", but pre-snap and post-snap reads. Check offs and Hot routes is also built into well developed spread system. Some pro-style recruits don't have the "quickest" releases. FF was noted to have a somewhat long release.
Point is... Maybe we shouldn't worry about Labels. Evaluate a kid in whatever system he comes from. Sit down with him and determine what type of QB IQ he has. Heck a guy who can do all of the things that you site above, who can also run, is SUDDENLY, a Dual-Threat.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:22 am to prepsportsallday
If you are running a modern spread you rarely take a snap under center.
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