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Real issues of Les M and why he has to go, IMO

Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:29 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:29 pm
This is CEO 101 failure....

OC......Crowton debacle. So what's he do? Hires his bff and college roomy (i believe). Keep in mind he wants control over his hire at OC.

DC.....Chavis was weak in big spots, failed LSU, and the completely disrespected Les and left us in the worst way. What's Les do? Hires Chavis' best friend and recommendation, Steele. Les further shows his weakness and lack of knowledge to hire better. Also, our rival wanted nothing to do with the guy anymore.

OL....let's be clear, I'm not knocking Grimes or his skill...BUT, when you have an OL opening and one of the candidates is an all time great alumni at OL and went on to be hall of fame material in the NFL AND was the head of the player's association. Yep, he spoke for ALL NFL players. And you have a chance to bring this guy into an opening in your program, YOU DO IT, PERIOD! Les shows more fear and weakness here by not wanting an LSU guy with STRONG will and ties. Remember, he needs to control.

Feel free to add. But he's loaded the staff with sub par inept hires (even Grimes stock has dropped).

This is football, but guys, it's big business and Les is CEO. Any CEO at fortune 500 would be run for the same issues.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66481 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:32 pm to
He prizes experience over innovation.

He hired Pelican and Chavis and all other Co-orodinator hires have been garbage.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:33 pm to
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when you have an OL opening and one of the candidates is an all time great alumni at OL and went on to be hall of fame material in the NFL AND was the head of the player's association. Yep, he spoke for ALL NFL players. And you have a chance to bring this guy into an opening in your program, YOU DO IT, PERIOD! Les shows more fear and weakness here by not wanting an LSU guy with STRONG will and ties. Remember, he needs to control.


fricking retarded. KM had never coached on any level. If Les hired him & it didn't work out you'd be on here saying Les was weak for caving to pressure.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:17 pm to
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fricking retarded. KM had never coached on any level. If Les hired him & it didn't work out you'd be on here saying Les was weak for caving to pressure.


So your dumb enough to think a 10+ year veteran and perrinal all pro didn't spend his days at practice coaching less experienced guys? Or even worse, you think he'd have trouble articulating his knowledge to young men?

So if mawae could go coach high school kids, youse take a line coach from another high school over him? Same applies to LSU.

Your school of thinking only applies to nFL jobs (sometimes)

This guy is overly qualified to be OL coach in college.

And obvious he has no communication issues, he was head of all players.

He wouldn't fail, that's just dumb. Tell me again what Grimecs line was doing when we hired him
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
775 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:21 pm to
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This is CEO 101 failure..


OL....let's be clear, I'm not knocking Grimes or his skill...BUT, when you have an OL opening and one of the candidates is an all time great alumni at OL and went on to be hall of fame material in the NFL AND was the head of the player's association. Yep, he spoke for ALL NFL players. And you have a chance to bring this guy into an opening in your program, YOU DO IT, PERIOD! Les shows more fear and weakness here by not wanting an LSU guy with STRONG will and ties. Remember, he needs to control.



please tell us about his OL coaching experience again, a basic CEO 101 inquiry on hiring and making decisions. NOT sentimental impulsive thinking
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76284 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
Les had some issues but if he just could ever get the offense going he'd be fine. His passing attacks are pitiful. And that's his downfall.
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:29 pm to
A lot of good points but I think you are wrong about Mawae.

Grimes was a proven commodity and being head of the players union in the NFL does not mean Mawae can coach.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:30 pm to
His hires haven't been issues, although Steele this year was disappointing. His main issue is an inability to comprehend that his schemes aren't that effective, and that no amount of practice is going to change that.
Posted by lsudude24
Boulder, CO
Member since Sep 2005
2340 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:32 pm to
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He prizes experience over innovation.



He values the ability to recruit over the ability to coach.
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:46 pm to
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So your dumb enough to think a 10+ year veteran and perrinal all pro didn't spend his days at practice coaching less experienced guys? Or even worse, you think he'd have trouble articulating his knowledge to young men?


Nowhere in his life has he proven he can be a college coach. Period. He's never coached in a college game, never recruited high school players & never had to articulate graduate level O-Line knowledge to 18 year old college kids. Developing & communicating NFLPA policy is one thing - teaching a true freshman proper technique is another.Studrawa quit on the recruiting trail his last two years. The damage done cannot be understated. You don't replace a shitbag with someone who has a great resume but had never actually done the job.
Grimes has brought in solid O-line talent & continues to do so. He has the recruiting connections KM did not have. If your Les you have to hire the safe bet. Go back & look at the O-line recruits from 2012-2013- it was brutal.
If KM wants to coach college football then he should. There are plenty of openings at G5 type schools yearly. Start there & come back when you've proven yourself.
Posted by TIGER62
METAIRIE, LA
Member since Aug 2005
2219 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:49 pm to
just because he was the all time great player does not make him a good coach

the closest player to the heisman - since billy cannon, was jerry stovall - do i have to say anymore!

Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24353 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:52 pm to
Bingo.

This is business, not super fan idol worshiping.

Glad to see there are other people not wearing Velcro shoes out there.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32889 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 3:06 pm to
Except Grimes has not coached the OL very well
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 3:14 pm to
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Except Grimes has not coached the OL very well


The first 7 games he did. The difference in the last 3 is we stepped up in competition & the line got exposed for what it really is - a patchwork line with just enough depth to get by.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Nowhere in his life has he proven he can be a college coach. Period. He's never coached in a college game, never recruited high school players & never had to articulate graduate level O-Line knowledge to 18 year old college kids. Developing & communicating NFLPA policy is one thing - teaching a true freshman proper technique is another.Studrawa quit on the recruiting trail his last two years. The damage done cannot be understated. You don't replace a shitbag with someone who has a great resume but had never actually done the job.
Grimes has brought in solid O-line talent & continues to do so. He has the recruiting connections KM did not have. If your Les you have to hire the safe bet. Go back & look at the O-line recruits from 2012-2013- it was brutal.
If KM wants to coach college football then he should. There are plenty of openings at G5 type schools yearly. Start there & come back when you've proven yourself.


LOL. How's Grimes line doing now, Skippy?

I think they had another false start when I reached for my phone to type this.

We hold, jump on every other play, get handled at the line, open no holes for LF...

What are we missing with your proven way to hire an OL coach.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 4:25 pm to
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Grimes was a proven commodity and being head of the players union in the NFL does not mean Mawae can coach.


What it shows is his level of knowledge and also his ability to communicate...

Tell me again what Crimes line did the year he left his position to come to LSU
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 4:32 pm to
The only way he stays HC is to get a competent OC and keeps his big10 hands off the offense. I do enjoy the fake field goals and fake points though. Aside from all of that, Dude has banked and won a national championship, something his mentor Bo Schembechler never did. He has solidified himself as one of LSU's greats. I think he's had a good run.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 4:36 pm to
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So your dumb enough to think....


I do love it so.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4776 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Les M


Appreciating you putting the M in there, otherwise nobody would've known who the frick you're talking about.
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