Question for the Lee supporters

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Because Lee looks like he is actually improving.

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Ding ding ding! And because even when he did play poorly, the offense could still score. Not the case under JJ.

Yeah that pick six was improving Believe me I want the guy to step up and do good, but the kid could always sling it but he would also throw pick sixes that kept you out of the game which was exactly the case in the spring game when he had the ability to not have to worry about getting hit.

Both qbs looked the same as theyve always been-JJ too cautious, JL making the big mistake.

Not an avowed Lee supporter, but:

1. Lee appears to be able to move the offense. Pick 6 in spring game caused people to question if he'll ever break that bad habit. But, at least people see a guy able to work the offense down the field.
2. I think most people, myself included, were expecting to see Jefferson grab the reins and be in much better control of the offense and be able to move the ball down the field. this didn't really happen.

Therefore, many people believe Lee shows some semblance of offensive productivity, while there is a question mark about Jefferson.

Although the spring game is a dubious venue for accurate evaluation, and many ranters are right that it only counts on what happens on the field in a real game, the anxiety level is high. In short, Lee appears to be on the balance improving while Jefferson doesn't. It's a mess.

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Because Lee looks like he is actually improving.

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This among other things.

1. his year at the helms we may have had the worse defense in the history of LSU. I can tell you if someone would have told us that we would have put up 38 against UGA in TS, we would have won.
2. we were a much more competitive team that year. Hell we put up 21 on UF. JJ only put up 3.
3. I think the whole "112th in Offense" will resonate with Tiger Fans until the day GC and LM leave here, no matter when that day comes and how it comes.
4. I think he looked like he progressed and JJ hasnt.

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Yeah that pick six was improving

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Did you watch anything besides that pick 6? Yes, Lee threw yet another pick six, but he also was checking down the his 2nd and 3rd receivers, staying in the pocket, and completing passes. But maybe thats over your head.

Just trying to lift some of my fellow ranters out of the profanity pit . . .

I don't support one over the other. In fact am sick of the folks who have to put one down to make the other look better.

Not true LSU fans. I feel they both have common problems which are related to training and mentoring.

Each is capable, with the right coaching. Both have talent.

I consider myself a Lee supporter, but I don't necessarily think he should start over Jefferson this season. I just think that he should get a fair shot, get some significant playing time, and that LSU fans are ridiculously unfair to him, and moreover, I really think it's disgusting the way the fanbase talks about him. With that out of the way...

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Why does Lee get a pass for his poor play in the past, but Jefferson doesn't?

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I wouldn't say that he gets a pass for his poor play, but there are 3 factors to consider here:

(1) Aside from one LaTech game that meant nothing coming off an emotionally deflating Bama loss, Lee's games were as a freshman, and Jefferson's games were as a sophomore after playing in about 7-8 games as a freshman and after being the starter as a freshman for over 5 weeks (Lee was the starter that year for about 8-9 weeks, which is a little longer, but not much). Also, Lee never went through spring practice as the #1 QB, unlike Jefferson in the spring of 2009. Common sense dictates that Jefferson should be judged more harshly for his sophomore year performance than Lee is for his freshman year performance. The age argument has always been bullshite.

(2) The offense performed better in '08 under Lee than it did in '09 under Jefferson. I don't want to say too much more here, because the arguments as to why this was the case are still running hot around here, but the bottom line is this: Lee proved he could average a lot of points against SEC competition, and Jefferson never did. Even subtracting the pick 6's from Lee's offensive production, the offense was still better. And again, this was as a freshman.

(3) Lee probably has more upside than Jefferson. In fact, almost the entire rationale for being pro-Jefferson and anti-Lee is that Jefferson is better at limiting mistakes. Well that's great if you want 3 loss seasons and want to play not to lose, but if you actually want to try to have a prolific offense, there is something to be said in favor of Lee being better suited to a pro-style aerial attack.

I think the bottom line is this: at the beginning of 2009, Jefferson was worse than Lee in 2008, but by the end of 2009, Jefferson was better than Lee in 2008. Is Jefferson better than Lee now? Probably. Should Jefferson be the starter against UNC? Probably. But it's just not fair to say that Lee has nothing to contribute to the team; that there isn't a real QB competition; or that LSU would be better off if Lee transferred somewhere else. That's bullshite.

Looks like we may be headed for the dreaded two quarterback system . . .