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Question about the Ole Miss NCAA allegations as it relates to LSU

Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98133 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:01 pm
Among other things, it involves ACT fraud over multiple sports, and going back over several coaching changes within the football program. Ole Miss is trying to avoid the dreaded lack of institutional control charge by pinning it all on a couple of Houston Nutt staffers. The danger to Ole Miss is if it's proven this goes back to the Orgeron era, when Hugh Freeze was his recruiting coordinator. If so, could this impact Orgeron's continued employment at LSU in any way?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42371 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:05 pm to
No
Posted by Mr_Coach Klein
Member since Apr 2016
52 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:20 pm to
No chance in hell Coach O is effected.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:28 pm to
Statute of limitation ought to make this moot right?
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4981 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:32 pm to
Not sure the NCAA has a statute of limitations. It's a NCAA action, not a legal one.
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:43 pm to
The NCAA statute of limitations is typically four years. From the January, 2014 NCAA Division I Manual:

19.5.11 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is provided to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation: (Adopted: 10/30/12 effective 8/1/13)
(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;
(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and
(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association’s fundamental recruiting, extra benefit, academic or ethical-conduct bylaws or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning the matter.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47793 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:03 pm to
Guess you showed him...
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9242 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:30 pm to
NCAA is afraid to do anything to anyone.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4981 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:22 pm to
There's a lot of wiggle room in that, which was the purpose the NCAA intended. I finished law school in 1991, and experience tells me that many statutes are open to interpretation, especially when it comes to "know or should have known." If you'll look at the last citation, you'll find lots of leeway, especially if it's the NCAA doing the interpreting
Posted by zappgator
Member since Oct 2006
958 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:27 pm to
The NCAA typically punishes institutions not coaches. Don't know that I agree with that but that's usually the way it goes down.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:48 pm to
Handing out gift cards through churches should be top priority for NCAA regarding Ole Miss
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9800 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:22 pm to
Only LSU can terminate Orgeron's employment at LSU.
Posted by TROCKS50
Member since Jan 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:23 pm to
Chris Vaughn, Nutt's recruiting coordinator at Ole Miss 2008-2011 was fired in February as Texas DB coach for his involvement in current OM allegations

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This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 7:25 pm
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