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re: QB battle not over?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:20 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:20 pm to PortCityTiger24
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A lot of you lack perspective. Harris wasn't ready week 1. He's going to play more as the season rolls on and when he gets his feet under him, he will be the guy. Harris is Cam's guy. He's the one they want to turn the offense over to, but only when he is ready.
Keep telling yourself that.
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:21 pm to LSUTIGER#1fan
It's over, but why tell opposing dc's. Les is not Obama.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:25 pm to LSUTIGER#1fan
I seriously doubt they're going to split the snaps 50/50. I've heard others saying they expect that Jennings will basically play the whole game with Harris only getting a couple of series at the end no matter how bad we're blowing them out.
I figure the truth is somewhere in the middle with Jennings probably getting something like 75% of the snaps, and Harris mostly playing in the 4th quarter with maybe one series in the first half or something like that.
Jennings is definitely the starter after last week, although if Harris is really impressive with his limited snaps, all it would take is one game where Jennings is ineffective for him to get his shot. And even if Jennings starts the whole year, it doesn't mean Harris couldn't challenge for the spot in the off-season.
I figure the truth is somewhere in the middle with Jennings probably getting something like 75% of the snaps, and Harris mostly playing in the 4th quarter with maybe one series in the first half or something like that.
Jennings is definitely the starter after last week, although if Harris is really impressive with his limited snaps, all it would take is one game where Jennings is ineffective for him to get his shot. And even if Jennings starts the whole year, it doesn't mean Harris couldn't challenge for the spot in the off-season.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:33 pm to ColeCoushCoush
I could see Harris getting a couple of first half drives, then playing pretty much the whole 4th quarter if we end up blowing them out. Jennings still gets a majority of snaps, but it could be pretty close.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:43 pm to monsterballads
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he was brought in for literally ONE play vs TCU to run a sneak.
not given a whole series. let's not get it twisted dude.
OK, however you want to "get it twisted" to keep your narrative. One play is still one play, but now you're onto a whole series. If you want to compare it, whose downs in their first game produced more net yards?
What about the other bullshite you posted?
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even ryan perrilloux redshirted in 2005, had 4 pass attempts and 3 runs in 2006, and only got some reps each game in 2007.
Yes, revisionist bullshite. I'll move on.
Harris has talent. He only played one series. But think about that series. Since April everyone said he would push AJ for the starting position. So Harris had his time to prepare. He knew he was going to play. And what happened? Yes, the reverse was a horrible play call for many reasons including having a 175 lbs true freshman QB leading blocks. I want BH to get more time, he needs to be more comfortable and that will come with in game snaps. But considering he knew he was going in, look what happened.
People need to stop writing off the young quarterback who has led two come from behind wins, has both starts away from home against pretty good OOC teams, and while his stats may not have improved to Mett status, he has kept cool in adverse situations. Harris is a freshman. His time will come.
Meanwhile Anthony Jennings came in late to bring us back in a 99 yard drive and has two starts and wins at neutral sites.
#TeamJennings
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:47 pm to El Eh Shu
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revisionist bull shite.
perrilloux's stats from 2007:
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1 2007-08-30 Louisiana State @ Mississippi State W 2 3 66.7 21 1 0 235.5 3 12 4.0 1
2 2007-09-08 Louisiana State Virginia Tech W 5 5 100.0 84 2 0 373.1 4 21 5.3 0
3 2007-09-15 Louisiana State Middle Tennessee State W 20 25 80.0 298 3 1 211.7 8 37 4.6 0 1 0 1 0.0 0.0
4 2007-09-22 Louisiana State South Carolina W 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 8 59 7.4 0
5 2007-09-29 Louisiana State @ Tulane W 1 3 33.3 -1 0 0 30.5 2 14 7.0 0
6 2007-10-06 Louisiana State Florida W 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 6 23 3.8 1
7 2007-10-13 Louisiana State @ Kentucky L 1 2 50.0 12 0 0 100.4 5 15 3.0 0
8 2007-10-20 Louisiana State Auburn W 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 4 11 2.8 0
9 2007-11-10 Louisiana State Louisiana Tech W 2 4 50.0 37 1 0 210.2 2 -3 -1.5 0
10 2007-12-01 Louisiana State N Tennessee W 20 30 66.7 243 1 1 139.0 9 14 1.6 0
11 2008-01-07 Louisiana State N Ohio State W 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 4.0 0
LINK
RP started 2 games as a redshirt sophomore with 2+ years in the system when flynn went down. in the other games he DID have only a handful of plays
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:48 pm to El Eh Shu
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QB battle not over?
Over?!?!
Nothing's over!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!?!
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:49 pm to TigerBait2008
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It's over. Jennings is the starter it's simple.
Link??? Jump to conclusions much?
He's the starter....for now.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 2:52 pm to BobBarker
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According to Geaux247, Les said it's over in today's press conference. So that source can go eat a sack full of horse dicks.
you must have believed Les when he said frank Herron was a stud and would start?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:42 pm to SammyTiger
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No one said it would be their strength and if they did they didn't know shite.
LOL you are either lying out your arse about not reading or hearing that, or just completely oblivious to all the media coverage.
The brought back three starters on their defense, those three starters were all in the secondary. Got damn Wisconsin fans came here several times giving previews of their team with that as a point of emphasis. You are so blinded by your dislike of Jennings or love of Harris that you aren't even trying to be reasonable.
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And you could just as easily say that our WRs ran all over Wisconsin more so than he passed all over them. A large amount of that 239 was after the catch and some great plays by WR.
Yep, you have an agenda. Dural's 80 yard TD was like 40 yard down the field throw, Dural's 44 yard catch was a 44 yard throw. Diarse 36 yard TD was a 15 yard throw. His throw to Smith had to be about 25 yards down field. Not only that, but you penalize a guy because his WRs break tackles? Because his WRs can get yac, he's somehow less of a QB? GTFO with that shite. Hill dink and dunked USCe to death and everybody wanted to have his baby.
Dural TWICE had downfield catches that were right on the money that he didn't come up with. One of them he didn't catch because his feet got tangled with the DB, the other was because the guy PI him so he couldn't catch it. Add in the Smith missed catch, the Quinn catch where he had his hands on, and Dickson's drop. Just on those five catches alone with no yac, that is an extra 150 yards at the least. Also the Magee screen that hit him right in the hands.
He also threw the ball away twice. If you are going to give the WRs all the credit for yac, better give him all the credit for hitting guys right on the hands or right in stride where they either dropped or caught the ball.
I mean you definitely have an agenda. I've seen you post almost the exact same thing several times.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:09 pm to monsterballads
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they're are bringing him along slowly IMO. even still he got an entire series of his first game as a true freshman. can't think of another time that's happened in the les miles era. Jarrett Lee played in 2008 as a redshirt freshman. that's as close as I can remember.
completely different scenarios. We had guys here every single time. We had older guys here every year throughout Miles' tenure. There are only two scholarship QBs. There is no one else to give a different look.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:14 pm to ColeCoushCoush
Jennings is definitely the starter after last week, although if Harris is really impressive with his limited snaps, all it would take is one game where Jennings is ineffective for him to get his shot. And even if Jennings starts the whole year, it doesn't mean Harris couldn't challenge for the spot in the off-season.
A decent year from Jennings 2000-2300 yards 16-18 TDs 8 ints 100 yards 3 TDs, Harris will have a shot in 2015
a really good year from Jennings 2400-2700 yards 20-24 TDs 7 ints 250 yards 4 TDs, Harris will not unset him for the rest of Jennings' time here.
A decent year from Jennings 2000-2300 yards 16-18 TDs 8 ints 100 yards 3 TDs, Harris will have a shot in 2015
a really good year from Jennings 2400-2700 yards 20-24 TDs 7 ints 250 yards 4 TDs, Harris will not unset him for the rest of Jennings' time here.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:19 pm to PortCityTiger24
I this real life? Lol
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:21 pm to LSUTIGER#1fan
Les doesn't give backup QB snaps against inferior opponent and catches flack.
Les gives backup QB snaps against inferior opponent and catches flack.
Par for the course for Les.
Les gives backup QB snaps against inferior opponent and catches flack.
Par for the course for Les.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:51 pm to Datbayoubengal
I don't believe there are only two scholarship QB's. There's only two talked about maybe.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:01 pm to LawAbidingFan
I'm pulling for Harris like the rest of us. I'm a n la boy so I want him to end up a legend. However AJ is the guy. BH will get his shot but all we know is he has a cannon and can run. There is so much more to playing his position at a high level. He didn't exactly play well on the big stage in the dome and clearly was a deer in headlights vs wisky. AJ is clutch period! Give him the keys this year and if we finish 4-4 in the sec then Harris will take the reins which most expect anyway
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:07 pm to ipodking
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Nah it's over. They wouldn't be taking 50/50 reps if LSU was playing a SEC team next week.
True, but he needs to be ready to step in if something happens to Jennings. The SEC is no walk in the park for QBs.
Harris probably won't get 50% of the reps the next two games, but he needs to get significant time once the opponent is put away. We're talking about a kid right out of high school adjusting to playing in front of 100,000+. Better to do that when the game isn't in doubt.
I wouldn't be at all shocked to see Harris come in and run a package of plays later in the season, especially after the bye week. They will have time to work something like that in then.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:19 pm to misey94
Dat......you can't be serious! BH will never unseat AJ......ever??????? He could do it this year if AJ has a couple of bad games. I'll admit I wanted BH to be the man, but AJ is doing fine right now. Hopefully he continues to progress.....but BH is not gonna fade into the background.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:56 am to RedTigerRulz
I'm not saying that he will fade and ride the pine for 2-3 years. Not at all. But he certainly didn't look as ready as we thought he'd be Saturday night. He needs time to adjust to not just playing, but RUNNING a sophisticated offense. We all heard Gruden and McShay's comments last year. Cam runs a truly pro-style offense, and the terminology and line checks are likely pretty complicated. Even if he pulls back a little bit for our younger QBs, they still have a lot to learn. And Jennings has a big head start in that department.
I'm just saying that Harris needs more time, probably more than this season, to really challenge to be the starting QB. But once he gets a handle on things, he has the talent to unseat Jennings. But for now, the steadier hand needs to prevail, and that certainly looks like it will be Jennings for the near future. If he can continue to put up 200 + and no INTs with our run game, we're in pretty good shape.
I'm just saying that Harris needs more time, probably more than this season, to really challenge to be the starting QB. But once he gets a handle on things, he has the talent to unseat Jennings. But for now, the steadier hand needs to prevail, and that certainly looks like it will be Jennings for the near future. If he can continue to put up 200 + and no INTs with our run game, we're in pretty good shape.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:15 am to Datbayoubengal
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LOL you are either lying out your arse about not reading or hearing that, or just completely oblivious to all the media coverage.
The brought back three starters on their defense, those three starters were all in the secondary. Got damn Wisconsin fans came here several times giving previews of their team with that as a point of emphasis. You are so blinded by your dislike of Jennings or love of Harris that you aren't even trying to be reasonable.
I haven't found a single preview that names their secondary as a strength.
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Yep, you have an agenda. Dural's 80 yard TD was like 40 yard down the field throw
that not the point, Dural had outrun the Corner and the safety, we can expect a guy to be that wide open for 80 yard bombs.
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Diarse 36 yard TD was a 15 yard throw.
He also broke 3 tackles before he even got the first down.
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Not only that, but you penalize a guy because his WRs break tackles? Because his WRs can get yac, he's somehow less of a QB?
NO i am not ready to crown him a great starter. 9/21 isn't great. We can't sit here and hope Dural is going to be wide upen over the top for 80 yards, or that Diarse is going to break 3 tackles on a throw short of the first down.
They weren't right on the money they were just catchable.
There are a few drops but that is going to happen, everyone has a few drops. Jennings also threw 2 shitty screen passes, and a bad toss. He threw a ball to Trey Quinn on the wrong side of the defender. and honestly his deep ball are just him throwing it as far as he can the receiver going and getting it. thats going to catch up to you when the Corners are scrubs.
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