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Predict how long it will be before the BCS returns to decide the playoffs
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:05 pm
I say by the end of next year.
The bias and lack of being able to justify the current rankings will be the downfall of this current scheme.
The bias and lack of being able to justify the current rankings will be the downfall of this current scheme.
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:06 pm to headboard banger
The BCS is never coming back. The current system will get exposed very soon for its lack of transparency and replaced with another powerful committee but it won't be the BCS.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:07 pm to siliconvalleytiger
BCS is history.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:08 pm to headboard banger
The BCS is a much much better system, but sadly i dont see it returning.
BCS deciding the top 4 seems to be the best system we could have but oh well
BCS deciding the top 4 seems to be the best system we could have but oh well
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:09 pm to headboard banger
Tomorrow
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:10 pm to headboard banger
Have to see how the committee reacts to losses by Georgia and Auburn/Ole Miss….
IMO, there is no way that either team can be ranked in the Top 15 given their initial rankings. They make it very obvious that a 2-loss team CANNOT be ranked ahead of a 1-loss team. This also completely eliminates the need for strength of schedule, which I assumed was the purpose of the committee in the first place.
My biggest question is this… the BCS killed teams that lost late in the season more than it did those that lost early… I'm waiting to see if the committee does the same thing.
IMO, there is no way that either team can be ranked in the Top 15 given their initial rankings. They make it very obvious that a 2-loss team CANNOT be ranked ahead of a 1-loss team. This also completely eliminates the need for strength of schedule, which I assumed was the purpose of the committee in the first place.
My biggest question is this… the BCS killed teams that lost late in the season more than it did those that lost early… I'm waiting to see if the committee does the same thing.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:10 pm to headboard banger
BCS formula for top 4 would have been fine by me.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:11 pm to chilge1
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My biggest question is this… the BCS killed teams that lost late in the season more than it did those that lost early… I'm waiting to see if the committee does the same thing.
i'm pretty sure this will be the case, as they are humans. and the only part of the BCS that hurt teams for late losses was the polls component, which was humans voting.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:12 pm to TriumphTiger
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BCS formula for top 4 would have been fine by me.
Exactly
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:13 pm to headboard banger
BCS for top 4 as long as we know what the damn formula is.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:17 pm to headboard banger
I already miss the BCS
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:18 pm to Teauxler
Strength of schedule has to play a major part.
If there is an undefeated SEC team, then they are in as well as a one lost SEC team based on the schedule strength, granted there are only 3 other undefeated teams
If there is an undefeated SEC team, then they are in as well as a one lost SEC team based on the schedule strength, granted there are only 3 other undefeated teams
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:20 pm to headboard banger
Here re my thoughts (yes, I know. I've been living in Georgia long enough that my thoughts may not be all that great due to living amongst fans of the eastern division of the SEC):
The four team "playoff" is not really playoff in the sense of the word that most folks would imagine. The idea behind four teams is to ultimately get Number One and Number Two to play each other for all the marbles. By including four teams in the mix, it's pretty likely that Numbers One and Two will be included and that things will work themselves out.
The idea of a playoff set-up like the NCAA Basketball Tournament is insane and a logistical nightmare. I think the four team playoff will be a pretty respectable system for those who understand exactly what it is and why it is limited to the four teams tat are considered to be the best in the country at the end of the regular season.
(Of course, we all know that the national championship is decided in Atlanta, GA on the first weekend of December every year.)
The four team "playoff" is not really playoff in the sense of the word that most folks would imagine. The idea behind four teams is to ultimately get Number One and Number Two to play each other for all the marbles. By including four teams in the mix, it's pretty likely that Numbers One and Two will be included and that things will work themselves out.
The idea of a playoff set-up like the NCAA Basketball Tournament is insane and a logistical nightmare. I think the four team playoff will be a pretty respectable system for those who understand exactly what it is and why it is limited to the four teams tat are considered to be the best in the country at the end of the regular season.
(Of course, we all know that the national championship is decided in Atlanta, GA on the first weekend of December every year.)
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:29 pm to chilge1
The BCS did not punish teams with late losses until the "human" poll got forced into the mix. The original BCS computer only system viewed a loss as a loss, which is why loosing the conference championship game didn't matter.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:31 pm to airbornetiger
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The original BCS computer only system
When was this?
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:43 pm to headboard banger
People are going to go apeshit over the current system by the end of this season.
The BCS was imperfect for deciding the best two teams, but would have been beyond reproach in picking a top 4. If you're not in the discussion as a top 4 team, "objectively" decided by a formulaic system, you have no claim to be in the championship conversation...period. Tough luck to the #5 team. But if you're the number 5 and it is a committee of people subjectively choosing whether you should be top 4...that's where things will get very hairy.
The human element/human bias/lack of transparency with the current system will be its downfall, and it will be sooner rather than later.
The BCS was imperfect for deciding the best two teams, but would have been beyond reproach in picking a top 4. If you're not in the discussion as a top 4 team, "objectively" decided by a formulaic system, you have no claim to be in the championship conversation...period. Tough luck to the #5 team. But if you're the number 5 and it is a committee of people subjectively choosing whether you should be top 4...that's where things will get very hairy.
The human element/human bias/lack of transparency with the current system will be its downfall, and it will be sooner rather than later.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:50 pm to headboard banger
The BCS isn't coming back. They're going to expand the playoffs to probably 6-8 teams. 4 is a nice start, but it will (and always was) going to be too few teams. It's been a slow crawl to get rid of the antiquated and diluted bowl system, but we're getting there
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:51 pm to The Easter Bunny
2003 and before. It was when USCw failed to make it to the game over Oklahoma and LSU---and were "crowned" the AP National Champions.
My original statement about human polls was not 100% accurate, but the human poll was such a small component of the overall BCS formula that it was losing significance along with sport writers and their ability to sway public perception about a particular team....nowhere near the 1/3 contributor I beleive it ended up being.
My original statement about human polls was not 100% accurate, but the human poll was such a small component of the overall BCS formula that it was losing significance along with sport writers and their ability to sway public perception about a particular team....nowhere near the 1/3 contributor I beleive it ended up being.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:59 pm to headboard banger
Anything would be better than what's in place now. Anytime humans are involved there will always be preference and bias. Everyone on any human committee will have their personal preferences. There needs to be a balance somewhere.
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:01 pm to airbornetiger
There was never a computer-only BCS. The change after 2003 was cutting the AP poll out and adding in the Harris poll.
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