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Please help me understand
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:16 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:16 am
For those who are ecstatic about retaining Miles please answer some questions for me. I do love my school but personally don't think Miles is the guy to bring championships. So...
1. What about Miles past history makes you think anything will be different moving forward.
2. Why does everyone say he should have one more year to fix things? Didn't he have the last 4 years to get things fixed too?
3. If Miles' team has a similar record next year and loses to Bama, Ole Miss, and Arky in our own division will your feelings that he's our best option remain?
Hopefully some honest discussion can come about and not just frick You Miles Rocks rah rah shite. And yes I'm prepared for the first response to be frick YOU MILES ROCKS
1. What about Miles past history makes you think anything will be different moving forward.
2. Why does everyone say he should have one more year to fix things? Didn't he have the last 4 years to get things fixed too?
3. If Miles' team has a similar record next year and loses to Bama, Ole Miss, and Arky in our own division will your feelings that he's our best option remain?
Hopefully some honest discussion can come about and not just frick You Miles Rocks rah rah shite. And yes I'm prepared for the first response to be frick YOU MILES ROCKS
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:16 am to SJS101
they will want to keep him cause he is a nice guy
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:20 am to SJS101
for them, it's not about results, it's about feelings...
they love the guy... and i can see why... i love the person Miles is too... but they let that cloud their true assessment of what's really happening.... add the fact that most are afraid of change inherently and you can surmise their reasoning for wanting to keep him rather easily....
they love the guy... and i can see why... i love the person Miles is too... but they let that cloud their true assessment of what's really happening.... add the fact that most are afraid of change inherently and you can surmise their reasoning for wanting to keep him rather easily....
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:21 am to SJS101
Do I wish we had Saban's Bama success? Sure
Do we have Saban's LSU success with Miles? Yes.
We may be in a similar situation to UGA and Richt. Richt is performing below what the fans expect, but not that much below it. That being said, he is exactly the kind of coach they want to represent the university. That's hard to part with.
Do we have Saban's LSU success with Miles? Yes.
We may be in a similar situation to UGA and Richt. Richt is performing below what the fans expect, but not that much below it. That being said, he is exactly the kind of coach they want to represent the university. That's hard to part with.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:21 am to SJS101
quote:
1. What about Miles past history makes you think anything will be different moving forward.
2008 - 2011
quote:
2. Why does everyone say he should have one more year to fix things? Didn't he have the last 4 years to get things fixed too?
Because NFL departures are at a 4-year low and recruiting is at a 4-year high
quote:
3. If Miles' team has a similar record next year and loses to Bama, Ole Miss, and Arky in our own division will your feelings that he's our best option remain?
I think most prepared themselves for this being Miles's last year, and most understand that the program is stagnant now and that next year is supposedly the championship year. If he can't do it then, he probably won't.
frick YOU MILES ROCKS
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:21 am to LSUFANDAY1
quote:
they will want to keep him cause Jimbo fell through
FIFY
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:23 am to SJS101
This caught me totally off-guard.
Sure, I knew this board had its share of ignoramuses.
But I did not realize that the ignoramuses among the fanbase, season-ticket holders, student-body, and alumni had taken things over--aided by Joe Alleva's and the LSU administration's colossal incompetence, of course.
Sure, I knew this board had its share of ignoramuses.
But I did not realize that the ignoramuses among the fanbase, season-ticket holders, student-body, and alumni had taken things over--aided by Joe Alleva's and the LSU administration's colossal incompetence, of course.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:23 am to SJS101
quote:Everyone wanted Miles fired in 08-09 range then he came back with great run in 2011. I hope and pray he can make another run, that's all we can hope for now. No sense in continuing to bash the guy although I understand the current melt. Sooner or later we need to cheer for the home team.
1. What about Miles past history makes you think anything will be different moving forward.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:24 am to TriumphTiger
OP:
Just give it up. All of your observations are completely justified and valid. However, your entire perspective is quite wrong. Let me tell you why.
Your observations and comments would be completely on point if LSU were a pro football team. LSU is NOT a pro football organization. It's not run like an NFL franchise. The expectations are not the same as one would see for an NFL team.
LSU football is an amateur football program where college kids play football in exchange for a free education and enough national exposure to give them a good shot at playing for the NFL one day.
Stop thinking of LSU football as some kind of pro football endeavor, because in the NFL, each team has one and only one goal -- to win the Superbowl. When an owner loses confidence in his Head Coach's ability to win the SB, the HC is fired.
The LSU football program does not exist solely to win National Championships. There are many other competing reasons and purposes for its existence, such as, mentoring young athletes, providing a football team that brings students and alumni together during the fall, representing LSU well and making money. Those are the main purposes of the LSU football program.
Any championships or awards are nice to have and very welcome, but, these accolades are ancillary indicia of success in football competition, but they are not indicators of how well LSU football does in those other, JUST AS IMPORTANT areas. Those other main areas that I mention are just as important, but, there are no trophies for mentoring a student, visiting a sick kid, being a respected and beloved part of the LSU community, and so forth.
So, stop expecting LSU football to be something it is not. It's an amateur sporting endeavor that represents a State University, not a pro football franchise.
There are a few college football programs that have the same demands that are placed on an NFL team, but, LSU is not one of those programs.
Just give it up. All of your observations are completely justified and valid. However, your entire perspective is quite wrong. Let me tell you why.
Your observations and comments would be completely on point if LSU were a pro football team. LSU is NOT a pro football organization. It's not run like an NFL franchise. The expectations are not the same as one would see for an NFL team.
LSU football is an amateur football program where college kids play football in exchange for a free education and enough national exposure to give them a good shot at playing for the NFL one day.
Stop thinking of LSU football as some kind of pro football endeavor, because in the NFL, each team has one and only one goal -- to win the Superbowl. When an owner loses confidence in his Head Coach's ability to win the SB, the HC is fired.
The LSU football program does not exist solely to win National Championships. There are many other competing reasons and purposes for its existence, such as, mentoring young athletes, providing a football team that brings students and alumni together during the fall, representing LSU well and making money. Those are the main purposes of the LSU football program.
Any championships or awards are nice to have and very welcome, but, these accolades are ancillary indicia of success in football competition, but they are not indicators of how well LSU football does in those other, JUST AS IMPORTANT areas. Those other main areas that I mention are just as important, but, there are no trophies for mentoring a student, visiting a sick kid, being a respected and beloved part of the LSU community, and so forth.
So, stop expecting LSU football to be something it is not. It's an amateur sporting endeavor that represents a State University, not a pro football franchise.
There are a few college football programs that have the same demands that are placed on an NFL team, but, LSU is not one of those programs.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:25 am to chilge1
quote:
chilge1
quote:
2008 - 2011
So you admit 2011 to present has been a dumpster fire then
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:28 am to Champagne
Dude so you are going to copy and paste this long response on multiple threads now.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:28 am to SJS101
1 because he's a good coach and has survived 11 years and has already won more than most. What makes u think he won't fix it now that he can get rid of this OC who was absolutely terrible.
2 because it's the right thing to do. 85% on an ESPN poll and most of their analysts agree he should stay. Why do think he must go now when he finally has a returning starting QB?
3 if he has similar offensive production next yr he should be terminated.
2 because it's the right thing to do. 85% on an ESPN poll and most of their analysts agree he should stay. Why do think he must go now when he finally has a returning starting QB?
3 if he has similar offensive production next yr he should be terminated.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:29 am to SJS101
quote:
So you admit 2011 to present has been a dumpster fire then
Try to find a ladder so the point doesn't go over your head again.
From 2008-09 we went 17-9 (8-8), then went 24-3 (14-2) with hardware
From 2014-15 we went 17-8* (9-7), and have a deep roster for next year.
If you think the 2012-13 seasons were a dumpster fire, then go root for Alabama.
* - denotes a bowl win
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:29 am to TriumphTiger
quote:
We may be in a similar situation to UGA and Richt. Richt is performing below what the fans expect, but not that much below it. That being said, he is exactly the kind of coach they want to represent the university. That's hard to part with.
Well I'll be damned. Richt got shitcanned.
Richt Fired
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:29 am to Champagne
You just going to paste this everywhere until someone agrees with you?
Football wins are not important at LSU as they are at other programs? That's your position?
It's about money. It's always about money.
Football wins are not important at LSU as they are at other programs? That's your position?
It's about money. It's always about money.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:34 am to LSUANDY25
quote:
What makes u think he won't fix it now that he can get rid of this OC who was absolutely terrible.
He's hired several 'terrible' ones then. To me that shows a lack of ability to evaluate talent in coaches or that Les meddles and is actually the reason our offense is terrible. Either way, not good for my confidence moving forward
quote:
3 if he has similar offensive production next yr he should be terminated.
Fair enough
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:35 am to TriumphTiger
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:38 am to SJS101
Well, as I see it, there is absolutely no point in firing your coach u less you have a reasonably good chance of getting a better coach...and at this point, the chances of that happening would be remote.
If a top quality coach becomes availBle, then you consider changes at that time....changing the course of a program should have nothing to do with emotions of a fan base, the media, the boosters or anyone else....
If a top quality coach becomes availBle, then you consider changes at that time....changing the course of a program should have nothing to do with emotions of a fan base, the media, the boosters or anyone else....
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:39 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
quote:
It's about money. It's always about money.
I forgot to add a comment about that. You're right. It is all about money. Even a beloved head football coach would eventually be fired if the program started losing money.
But, I have no insight into LSU athletic finances. Has LSU EVER lost money in athletics? Even in the 1990s? I don't know, but I don't think so.
LSU football would make money for LSU as long as LSU football turns in winning seasons and a bowl game, that's my guess.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:43 am to Champagne
As long as the money is coming in and tickets are sold (actual attendance doesn't really matter), there will be no pressure to make major changes.
I'm as frustrated as anyone but being negative takes far too much energy.
I'm as frustrated as anyone but being negative takes far too much energy.
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