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PERSPECTIVE: Alabama circa 2006

Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:37 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:37 am
never forget how bad they were before Saban came back. think this is a shitshow? try getting rejected by Mike Riley Spurrier and Rich Rodriguez among others. everyone was eating them alive. then they landed their coach and have never looked back.
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Now, Alabama must renew its search for a replacement to Mike Shula, fired on Nov. 26 after going 6-6 in his fourth season.

Again, the once-mighty program was left Crimson in the face in another coaching search. The Tide is seeking its fifth coach since Gene Stallings stepped down in 1996. Stallings is the only coach to manage sustained success since the famed Bryant's retirement after the 1982 season.

That's not to say the program doesn't have plenty of allure for coaches, including Rodriguez, who called the Tide's interest "very, very flattering" in a conference call with Alabama reporters.

"When you get a call from Alabama, and if you're a college football fan, you say, 'Holy cow, it's Alabama. I think I've got to take this call,"' he said.

If taking the call is a no-brainer, the same can't necessarily be said for taking the job.

Alabama aimed high in this search, making overtures to South Carolina's Steve Spurrier and Nick Saban of the Miami Dolphins. Neither high-profile coach wanted to leave his current post.

Then, Moore's attention turned squarely to Rodriguez, who had both the offensive pedigree and the track record for winning the Tide program is seeking.

It wasn't clear who the Tide will turn to now, though the university's original wish list also included Navy's Paul Johnson, Wake Forest's Jim Grobe and possibly California's Jeff Tedford.

There have been no confirmed interviews with any of them.

Whoever takes the job will hope for better luck than the four coaches who tried to match Stallings' success. Mike DuBose and Mike Shula were former Tide players who failed to keep the winning going. Mike Price was fired for off-the-field behavior before coaching in a game, and Dennis Franchione jumped to Texas A&M after just two years in Tuscaloosa.

The latest coaching searches have also had some difficult twists. Then-New Orleans Saints assistant Mike Riley was offered the job before Price's hiring four years ago but wanted more time to also pursue the UCLA job. Alabama didn't give him that time, and Riley wound up going to Oregon State.

In 2000, Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer and Miami's Butch Davis turned Alabama down, before Franchione's hiring.



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This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:48 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27498 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:42 am to
Remember this, Alabama was not all that attractive after the Albert Means fiasco. In a fair world , after what Logan Young and others did along with the acquiescence of Dubose and Mal Moore...and Paul Bryant, Jr., Alabama is lucky that it wasn't SMU. Their violations were just as bad if not worse
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:45 am to
exactly. they were dead. buried. we don't need that. we don't need a resurrection. we just need to go on a diet and get back to our fighting weight. moving from Les is a step in the right direction.

and this media circus surrounding Les is the same thing that happened with Stallings.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:48 am to
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never forget how bad they were before Saban came back.


They were 22-13 (63%) Shula's last 3 years.
We are 25-11 (69%) in our last 3 years.

That isn't a huge difference.

ETA: Shula didn't coach the Indy Bowl loss. Corrected above.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155600 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:49 am to
i remember when jim grobe was considered a frontrunner. what could've been
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:50 am to
much needed post, karmdawg. I had to step out of my shoes a bit too, late last night, before I could see the forest below.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:50 am to
Shula also went 10-2 the year before. Funny how the media praises Bama but bash LSU even though they have a better case
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11155 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:50 am to
Whoever the next hire is is what makes firing Miles the right or wrong decision.

Botch the hire and we're a joke. Nail the hire and we're back in the NC picture. All the pieces are in place.

Saban made firing Shula the correct choice. LSU admins better have something lined up.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:50 am to
quote:

were 22-14 (61%) Shula's last 3 years.
We are 25-11 (69%) in our last 3 years.

That isn't a huge difference.

true. but they were 6-6 the last year. my point is that they'd been struggling for years. and then they went through a crazy coaching search where they struck out multiple times.

I wouldn't call this a shitshow. I'd call this due diligence. THAT was a shitshow.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:52 am to
quote:

They were 22-14 (61%) Shula's last 3 years.
We are 25-11 (69%) in our last 3 years.


Yep. And they were criticized for canning Shula. "But..but...but he was 10-2 just last year!"
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:53 am to
and they were called entitled and impatient. then they ponied up and brought the best college coach in America back to college. and have killed everyone ever since.

sometimes when you think you're underachieving, you actually are.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3942 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:57 am to
quote:


They were 22-14 (61%) Shula's last 3 years.
We are 25-11 (69%) in our last 3 years.

That isn't a huge difference.


There was a huge difference. Shula was 2-6 in the SEC on his way out. He was 6-6 overall that season.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:04 pm to
so wait til we go 2-6?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Whoever the next hire is is what makes firing Miles the right or wrong decision.


That might be the perception, but it's unwarranted. Firing Miles IS the right decision. If we make a bad decision in hiring his replacement, that won't change the fact that this one (if we make it) is a good one.

If you're drowning, getting out of the water is a good decision. If after you get out of the water, you walk into the middle of a busy highway and get run over, that is a bad decision, but it still doesn't mean you should have stayed in the water and drowned.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 12:22 pm
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