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Passing to win. Running to lose.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:20 am
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:20 am
First. I don't personally care about yardage, play calling, passing or running emphasis. I appreciate wins. Don't care if it comes the prettiest way or the ugliest. But seems to be a lot of.. Backseat coaching.
Through three games LSU is averaging 101 yards through the air and 315 yards on the ground per game. What do YOU individually think about if the stats were flipped? Would YOU be complaining that we weren't giving LF the ball enough even though we were apparently sailing bombs? Why is it so much more important to take rushing yards and convert them to passing yards?
Rushing plays have negative results such as TFL or no gains. Passing plays have incompletions. Both momentum and drive killers. Why is emphasis on type of yardage more important to you? I want YOUR opinion on the topic whether for or against.
Through three games LSU is averaging 101 yards through the air and 315 yards on the ground per game. What do YOU individually think about if the stats were flipped? Would YOU be complaining that we weren't giving LF the ball enough even though we were apparently sailing bombs? Why is it so much more important to take rushing yards and convert them to passing yards?
Rushing plays have negative results such as TFL or no gains. Passing plays have incompletions. Both momentum and drive killers. Why is emphasis on type of yardage more important to you? I want YOUR opinion on the topic whether for or against.
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:24 am to USARMYDasher
Our RB is better than the QB and the WRs catching. Running the football is LSU's identity so why go air raid? Running is what wins in the SEC by wearing down the defense. Physical run games executed at high levels with the option of using play action is the most difficult offense to stop.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 2:27 am
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:28 am to rmnldr
I'm referring to the amount of posters on this board who are citing our lack of passing yards as a future downfall to this team and asking why it matters whether or not the yards come on the ground or through the air.
In all seriousness did I not explain it well? I'll edit it if so.
In all seriousness did I not explain it well? I'll edit it if so.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:46 am to USARMYDasher
All of those idiots whining about passing yards are Madden jockeys or kids that believe it's "cooler" to sling the ball all over the place because running the ball is boring and old fashioned. None of them know how to win a game and would bitch if LSU won every game but didn't win the way they think is cool
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:52 am to USARMYDasher
In all honesty I'm happy with the team's progression and it's hard to argue with Fournette's home run ability on seemingly any carry he gets, but I'd like to see our stable of wide receivers get more in-game reps. On those 3rd and longs I'd like to feel more confident that we can convert.
Other than that, feed the beast.
Other than that, feed the beast.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 3:18 am to USARMYDasher
we are blessed to be able to manhandle opposing teams and rush so effectively.
all i ask is that when they do load up and we are so predictable it is causing 3 and outs that we would open it up and get more creative.. via mixing it up such as passing.. like one 1st or 2nd down.. and medium yardage passing..
that's all. i don't care about stats in terms of how many passes attempted or yardage thrown for.. what i care about is seeing our offense flourish and we continue producing touchdowns like i know LSU is capable of every time they touch the ball.. so much talent on O. no reason not to have confidence in our talent and abilities.
all i ask is that when they do load up and we are so predictable it is causing 3 and outs that we would open it up and get more creative.. via mixing it up such as passing.. like one 1st or 2nd down.. and medium yardage passing..
that's all. i don't care about stats in terms of how many passes attempted or yardage thrown for.. what i care about is seeing our offense flourish and we continue producing touchdowns like i know LSU is capable of every time they touch the ball.. so much talent on O. no reason not to have confidence in our talent and abilities.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:16 am to TGFN57
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All of those idiots whining about passing yards are Madden jockeys or kids that believe it's "cooler" to sling the ball all over the place because running the ball is boring and old fashioned. None of them know how to win a game and would bitch if LSU won every game but didn't win the way they think is cool
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:27 am to beauchristopher
quote:LSU had three 3&outs Saturday.
all i ask is that when they do load up and we are so predictable it is causing 3 and outs
The first 3&out was in the first quarter. First and third downs were pass plays. One sack, one incompletion.
The second 3&out was in the second quarter. LSU gained 12 total yards rushing on first & second down but was penalized on both plays, too; third and long resulted in a sack.
The third and final 3&out began late in the third and ended early in the fourth. LSU began the drive with a 1st&15 because of a penalty. Ten rushing yards total on the first two plays, and then an incomplete pass.
Neither of these drives stalled because of predictability. The first 3&out featured a first down pass play. The second and third 3&outs featured LSU gaining more than 10 yards on offense but having to punt because they couldn't make up for penalty yards.
Narrative.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:36 am to USARMYDasher
You do realize it isn't just posters on TD that say we need to be a more complete team to beat the teams we play down the road right? It has always been a knock on us that we have trouble moving the ball when Bama or a team like ole miss stop our run.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:37 am to USARMYDasher
I think the problem is, there could come a game or two where LF is stopped. We will have to throw to win. Our D just gave up 24pts to a 5th string QB. We have to develop some kind of passing game in order to survive any shoot out. I though BH threw the ball well Saturday. We , at some point, will need a 270yd passing game.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:37 am to ballscaster
Be patient-the passing game will improve. Right now, defenses will be looking to see if LF will get the ball-play action to him will pay off at key times!!!
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:43 am to TampaTiger22
The drive-killer are the penalties that create long yardage situations. Remove offensive penalties and the score vs Syracuse would have been a near blowout.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:48 am to TampaTiger22
ever year we run into a team or two that stacks the box and stops our run game.
We will need a passing game to take advantage of single coverage.
we can win 10 games a year with 100 yards passing a game don't see a championship though.
We will need a passing game to take advantage of single coverage.
we can win 10 games a year with 100 yards passing a game don't see a championship though.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:04 am to StarkvilleTigerFan
quote:It's just good science.
Be patient-the passing game will improve. Right now, defenses will be looking to see if LF will get the ball-play action to him will pay off at key times!!!
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:09 am to USARMYDasher
[quote]Rushing plays have negative results such as TFL or no gains. Passing plays have incompletions, interceptions, and sacks [quote]
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:09 am to USARMYDasher
It isn't about yardage. It's about being able to show balance whenever the run game is finally stifled.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:13 am to USARMYDasher
only two things matter in football
points scored
points scored by the opponent.
Now other stats are important, and they may reflect how much or how little each of the stats above occurs, but how ever you get more points scored, and less points scored by your opponent is what you must push for.
LSU could beat EMU 60-0 have 450 rushing yards, LF with 5 TDs and 350 yards. Our passing will only have 150 with 3 TDs. We will still complain we aren't passing the ball enough.
points scored
points scored by the opponent.
Now other stats are important, and they may reflect how much or how little each of the stats above occurs, but how ever you get more points scored, and less points scored by your opponent is what you must push for.
LSU could beat EMU 60-0 have 450 rushing yards, LF with 5 TDs and 350 yards. Our passing will only have 150 with 3 TDs. We will still complain we aren't passing the ball enough.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:17 am to ballscaster
Truth. People dont realize how they're twisting their reality in order to make their agenda hidden to themselves.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:26 am to catholictigerfan
CatholicTiger, you are correct. However, I would think that Tampa is correct as well. LSU will need much improved passing game to win later in the season.
Solution? I would think that regardless of points, Harris should get more live action throwing the ball this coming week. Not 60 times, but 25-30 attempts. Expect a few picks. But full speed practice can only help. And I will not be a guy that comes to this board and bitches about only winning by 20 pts due to said interceptions.
Will Miles do this, probably not. But these are the type of games to put Harris in a position outside of his comfort zone.
Solution? I would think that regardless of points, Harris should get more live action throwing the ball this coming week. Not 60 times, but 25-30 attempts. Expect a few picks. But full speed practice can only help. And I will not be a guy that comes to this board and bitches about only winning by 20 pts due to said interceptions.
Will Miles do this, probably not. But these are the type of games to put Harris in a position outside of his comfort zone.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:29 am to USARMYDasher
I'm pleased with our offense so far. We are a run first team and having been running the ball at will so can't see why anyone has an issue with our offense. As long as we are winning games and putting together good drives and aren't going three and out every series, I'm happy. I'll take 400-500 yards of offense all day, I don't care how we get it as long as we get it.
Would I like to see us air it out some against weaker opponents? Sure, but just to work on that area of our game as it needs the most work and we are going to need to be able to throw the ball later on down the road.
Would I like to see us air it out some against weaker opponents? Sure, but just to work on that area of our game as it needs the most work and we are going to need to be able to throw the ball later on down the road.
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