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re: Once and for all. Declining college football attendance is NOT just an LSU problem

Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57924 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:38 pm to
So we should stop searching for solutions to get people to the stadium and to stay?
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
1197 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:39 pm to
I'm not ever going to spend that kind of money and spend a whole day and half the night doing that again.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4332 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:49 pm to
Think about it...in Tiger Stadium's heyday (i'm talking 70's-90's), LSU MAY have been broadcast 5 times a year on your 20-25 inch "box" TV. Other than that, it was Jim Hawthorne on the radio or Tigervision (which used to be an LSU production w/LSU pregame, halftime, and postgame featurettes and LSU legends calling the game. NOT an ESPN plus broadcast with no-names calling it.) I legit remember as a kid my parents having a house full of people over for a game that was NOT on TV. If you actually went to a game, you had an opportunity to see your team live and you were super pumped about it. Furthermore, there was a good chance the game was not on TV so it was an added plus. Now with big-screen HDTV and surround sound, it's alot easier and cheaper to have people over at the house for the games. LSU gameday is much more of a social event now with most people just going thru the motions. The days of bringing headphones and binoculars to a game are long gone.

BUT...in a 2019 scenario or Bama last year, it still can be a packed house! It's not the norm tho.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4707 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 2:58 pm to
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I think with LSU specifically it’s a traffic flow issue

Since I've been here in 2010, contraflow has ALWAYS been an issue. They have never gotten it figured out.

The problem now is cost of living and game prices. Tickets are not getting cheaper. Gas/hotels/travel expenses are all getting higher. Tailgate equipment is expensive.

Games are almost 4 hours long. That's a lot of time to spend not only in the stadium, but all the time leading up to kickoff.

People will spend money on things they enjoy if it can work financially. It still works for a lot of people. Older fans are now starting to value comfort at home more than fighting the economy, mother nature, and traffic. It's a bit of everything. There's no one single solution.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 10:29 pm
Posted by LL7
Houston
Member since Mar 2010
3275 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:27 pm to
Who wants the hassle of going to a game? Uncomfortable seats, crappy view of the field, hot temperature or cold later in season, drunk and obnoxious people sitting nearby, parking and traffic hassles, exhorbitant cost for crappy concessions and outrageous ticket prices. Give me my big screen in my living room any day.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26403 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:39 pm to
Penn State and Oregon both had packed houses for their entire games yesterday, which were blowouts.

Declining college football attendance may be a Southern phenomenon this year, due to the ongoing ridiculous heat
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17872 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:46 pm to
There's bad traffic in Oxford. Athens. Knoxville. Tuscaloosa. Starkville. Auburn. Gainesville. Nashville...

You get my point.

It was better before they did a traffic study and people weren't forced to go in directions opposite of their destinations. For years... until about 2002 before everything was paid parking, we parked at the student union or behind the Horseshoe. Left the game after 0:00 and made it off campus usually in less than 30 minutes.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7023 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:47 pm to
I’m interested to see what the whole broadcast change will be next year when ABC, ESPN and the SEC become one big family.
My fear is that we will eventually become PAY PER VIEW all over again.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68456 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:53 pm to
Has anyone calculated the increase in game breaks for the modern college game vs the 1990s?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12072 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:01 pm to
50% of the young adults between 19 and 29 years of age are living with their parents, playing video Games. They didn't grow up playing sports nor attending games for enjoyment.
When my boys were teenagers, I took them to the local HS Games. They went to see and be seen and not for the game. Hell, they never even knew the score, when asked.

Times they are a changing.
Posted by WoodlandsTX_Tiger
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
37 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:14 pm to
This guy gets it…

We live in the Woodlands and drive in for 1 game per year. For the Arkansas game the drive into BR took 6 hours…1 hour from 1 mile before the bridge to our friends house off Highland Road. This is a problem…We had great seats and enjoyed the game…but left early and watched the end from our friends’ house because nobody wanted to sit in an hour+ of traffic to get a few miles.

Truth be told…I enjoy watching from the comfort of my home or floating in my pool, but like to go to the game with friends. And I will leave the game whenever I damn well feel like it.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27742 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:20 pm to
If the university wanted that stadium packed to 105% capacity, it would be. It's 100% a business decision to maximize game day profits over gameday atmosphere and fan experience.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2466 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:39 pm to
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Fix the traffic problem


Until the Mississippi shifts to to Atchafalaya and we fill in the River with more west bound roads to exit campus 360 we are limited on traffic solutions.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7893 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:41 pm to
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We had about 85k in the stadium last night.


Stadium looks embarrassing on TV with wide swaths of empty seats. And those are sets in the bowl on the east side. The crowd was flat for most of the first half last night.

But LSU's administration doesn't care about that at this point. They want the money of sold tickets and increased concession prices. They don't care if the food sucks and the service is bad because enough sheep will still buy it.

And the TV money is the big thing. LSU has played 11 a.m. home game recently because TV told them to do it, and they have to do it because of the money TV game them. USC and UCLA aren't moving to the Big Ten because they want better opponents for better home attendance. They're leaving because they're guaranteed a huge increase in guaranteed TV money.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 4:42 pm
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
4817 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:35 pm to
Double decline
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1230 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:48 pm to
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The Gold Seat crowds dress, and act, as if they are at cocktail party.


As an old timer you should mention that this was worse in the 80’s when women wore “sunday” dresses, men wore jackets, and bought the women corsages every week.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5421 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:53 pm to
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It’s a nation wide issue so either go to the game and enjoy it or give your tickets to someone else who will appreciate it. Fans have too many other better/comfortable options.


Priced out the real fans. It’s not going back so deal with it
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:54 pm to
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Too expensive for an average Joe like me.
BS. That's an excuse.


Nah. When tickets for the family costs a car note, your average beer drinking baw aint gonna spring for many games a year.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6810 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:01 pm to

I believe you do what with your time and Money as you wish but……..

I cannot understand why someone get dressed Drive to Stadium Sit in Sun then leave early
Posted by Nolalakeview
Member since Feb 2015
859 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:34 pm to
I totally agree with the video games. They would prefer to not have to get dressed, put up with the crowds, heat and just play the video games with their friends. Also, every person in their 20's that I know who are living on their own do not subscribe to regular television channels/networks. They only have access to Netflix, Hulu, Prime, and YouTube Video bloggers. They have no interest in college football, the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.
Also, they have no clue about politics, the weather, etc. since they don't watch/have access to the local or national news.
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