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re: Oh No-----------tell me it ain't so.......Athlon's SEC coaching thoughts...
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
so you are not counting games where he was the head coach?
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:57 am to OneMoreTime
quote:I would definitely add Bowden. His AU teams were tough... tough to beat, tough mentally (didn't make many mistakes), and tough physically (to the point of being dirty at times).
1990s had about this many
ehh. Take 1995. You had Spurrier, Fulmer, Danny Ford, tuberville who all won national championships / had undefeated seasons (could add Terry bowden too)
Now you have Saban and who else? When Dan mullen has an argument to be the #2 coach in your league, there's a problem
Of course both he and Tuberville are prime examples of the Jimmie's and Joe's matter just as much as coaching.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:04 am to gettin there
Based on their criteria, that ranking seems pretty fair.
eta: although I'd probably put him in front of Kirby smart. While O isn't nearly as strong a game planner, at least he's been a head coach at multiple stops and is a great recruiter. His future will depend on how well Canada does.
eta: although I'd probably put him in front of Kirby smart. While O isn't nearly as strong a game planner, at least he's been a head coach at multiple stops and is a great recruiter. His future will depend on how well Canada does.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:54 pm to la_birdman
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You used to be fairly ok but you've really turned into a horrible poster. Not sure what happened but goodnes
Yeah because youre clearly ok with posters that have the same opinion as yours. Its amazing how youre just fine with other posters constantly posting the same thing yet you want me to move on.
Also, I don't care if you think I'm a horrible poster.thats what I meant about not caring about poster's opinions.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:55 pm to old man tiger
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so you are not counting games where he was the head coach?
No I don't count interim coaches as running a program. There is a reason there is an interim tag to it.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:56 pm to ShortyRob
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While i agree with you on O, the above is self evidently not true.
I guess I should've said I don't care about their opinion of me.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:58 pm to tigers32
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although I'd probably put him in front of Kirby smart. While O isn't nearly as strong a game planner, at least he's been a head coach at multiple stops and is a great recruiter. His future will depend on how well Canada does.
Kirby Smart has the far superior resume up to this point and it's not close.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:59 pm to I20goon
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Since Les Miles win% gets tossed around here so much I'm going to point out that CEO's record of 7-2 is a 77.7% win%, 0.7% higher than Les Miles' (114-34).
Actually his win % as lsu's head coach is 1.000%. He has 1 game coached as lsu's head coach.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:03 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Hou would take FAT BERT over Coach O? You're crazy
Wait you think it's crazy to Bert over O?
Ed Orgeron as a head coach has the worst win % in ole miss history(10 games coached minimum). Ed Orgeron has the worst in conf win % in ole miss history(10 games coached minimum).
Bert has proven he can run a program and win more more than 2 conf games in a season. Ed Orgeron has not. I find it funny how many lsu fans there are that dont know just how little Ed Orgeron has accomplished at any position above dline coach.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:06 pm to gettin there
Any list that has Dan Mullen as the #2 coach in the SEC should be immediately laughed at and then used as toilet paper. Hugh Freeze at #6?
Oh, by the way, Orgeron already beat 4 of the higher rated coaches on this list. Summy, Freeze, Bieliema, and Mullen.
Get real.
Oh, by the way, Orgeron already beat 4 of the higher rated coaches on this list. Summy, Freeze, Bieliema, and Mullen.
Get real.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:true without the "interim" tag. Neither % to be taken as a predictor for the future admittedly (hence the troll disclaimer in my post).
Actually his win % as lsu's head coach is 1.000%. He has 1 game coached as lsu's head coach.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:24 pm to STRIPES
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Oh, by the way, Orgeron already beat 4 of the higher rated coaches on this list. Summy, Freeze, Bieliema, and Mullen.
Charlie Weatherbie beat Saban, therefore Charlie Weatherbie is a better coach than Saban.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:29 pm to I20goon
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true without the "interim" tag. Neither % to be taken as a predictor for the future admittedly (hence the troll disclaimer in my post).
Yeah I know you were joking. I can't wait until the season starts so I can start posting....
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Ed Orgeron has the #1 win %in lsu history. FACT
Ed Orgeron has the #1 win % against ranked teams in lsu history.FACT
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You are one trolling MFer. How does it feel to actively root for the head coach of your favorite team to fail? I mean give the guy a chance. He's been doing a pretty damn good job so far.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 1:49 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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How does it feel to actively root for the head coach of your favorite team to fail?
No one is doing this.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:06 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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You are one trolling MFer. How does it feel to actively root for the head coach of your favorite team to fail?
What? I hope Ed Orgeron has the best tenure in lsu history. No one wants him to fail. Good god.
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He's been doing a pretty damn good job so far.
I agree. That doesn't mean I'm blind to lack of success he has had before lsu.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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No I don't count interim coaches as running a program
Well lucky for coach O you did not have shite to do with hiring. Not counting wins and losses as the head coach whether interim or not does tell me you are not a big fan of his.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:11 pm to gettin there
Athlon only got 2 things right about CEO ranking.
Satan shoul be ranked ahead and Odom should be ranked behind him!
The rest!
At Ole Miss he as a disappointment. But Ole Miss and disappointment go together like beans and rice.
Since then at USC and LSU he is 12-4 overall and 10-3 in conference play. He has recruited well and upgraded the team's weakest aspect- OC.
12: Smart 8-5; 4-4 in weak east
11: Mason 13-24 in east
10: Stoops 19-30; 8-24
9: Muschamp 6-7 after 28-21 at Florida
8: Sumlin 44-21 looks better on paper so can't go all out on ranking but 17-15 SEC
7: Jones 30-21 ok
6: Freeze 39-25, 19 wins in 2014-15, BUT 5-7 and NCAA investigation. Not ok
5: Bielema 25-26. Really? Bragging on 15-11 last two years?!
4: Malzahn started 12-2 and NC! More than ok! But what have you done for me lately?
3: McElwain 2 SEC East championships and 19-8. Ok.
2: Mullen 61-42 at Mississippi State? OK!
So in summation: Saban (didn't let autocorrect do it's job this time) oh heck yeah!
Mullen, McElwain, Malzahn, and Jones? OK.
CEO should be #6 not #13. But I prefer to be underrated and perhaps overlooked.
But he has his future in his hands with every game going forward.
Satan shoul be ranked ahead and Odom should be ranked behind him!
The rest!
At Ole Miss he as a disappointment. But Ole Miss and disappointment go together like beans and rice.
Since then at USC and LSU he is 12-4 overall and 10-3 in conference play. He has recruited well and upgraded the team's weakest aspect- OC.
12: Smart 8-5; 4-4 in weak east
11: Mason 13-24 in east
10: Stoops 19-30; 8-24
9: Muschamp 6-7 after 28-21 at Florida
8: Sumlin 44-21 looks better on paper so can't go all out on ranking but 17-15 SEC
7: Jones 30-21 ok
6: Freeze 39-25, 19 wins in 2014-15, BUT 5-7 and NCAA investigation. Not ok
5: Bielema 25-26. Really? Bragging on 15-11 last two years?!
4: Malzahn started 12-2 and NC! More than ok! But what have you done for me lately?
3: McElwain 2 SEC East championships and 19-8. Ok.
2: Mullen 61-42 at Mississippi State? OK!
So in summation: Saban (didn't let autocorrect do it's job this time) oh heck yeah!
Mullen, McElwain, Malzahn, and Jones? OK.
CEO should be #6 not #13. But I prefer to be underrated and perhaps overlooked.
But he has his future in his hands with every game going forward.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:15 pm to old man tiger
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Well lucky for coach O you did not have shite to do with hiring
You're right because I wouldn't hire a 55 year old career position coach that has never run a successful offense,defense or program.
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interim or not does tell me you are not a big fan of his.
What? I don't count any interim tenure as running a program.
Please explain how not running the defense,not running the offense,not choosing your staff,and not having anything to do with getting any player that is above a redshirt freshman is running a program?
If not running the defense,not running the offense,not hiring the staff is running a program then I've been running programs all my life.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:19 pm to Gaspergou202
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Since then at USC and LSU he is 12-4 overall and 10-3 in conference play
It's amazing how many people consider 8 games of not choosing the staff, not running the offense,and not running the defense as running a program.
How much of a coach's fingerprints are on a program when he goes from position coach to head coach?
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