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O line signees/recruits...re: bama game

Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:37 pm
I listed our O line recruits going back to 2013, as no one from the 2012 class is still on the team. This is per Dandy Don's site. Only one true center, although I think Clapp played Center at Brother Martin. Not many Tackles...seems to fall in place in what I thought the issues were. No true center, so Pocic played there, and not a lot of Tackles. Too many guards recruited. There are the problems. Seems 2013 and 2014 are the main problem years. 2015 and 2016 look promising.

2013
Josh Boutte-OL
Andy Dodd-OG/C
Fehoko Fanaika-OL
Karl Malone Jr.-OL
Ethan Pocic-OL

2014-only three o lineman and one was a juco
Garrett Brumfield-OG
William Clapp-OL
Jevonte Domond-OL-no longer on team

2015
George Brown-OT-no longer on team
Adrian McGee-OG
Hanner Shipley-OL-no longer on team
Maea Teuhema-OG
Chidi Valentine-Okeke-OT
Toby Weathersby-OT

2016
Willie Allen-OT
Donavaughn Campbell-OG
Lloyd Cushenberry-OL
Jakori Savage-OT

2017
Saahdiq Charles-OG
Austin Deculus-OL
Edward Ingram-OG
Seth Stewart-OL

I think Deculus and Stewart project at OT with Deculus being 6'6" 323 and Stewart being 6'8" 320.

Fire away on your thoughts.




This post was edited on 11/12/16 at 7:41 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31913 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:54 pm to
LSU needs more like Deculus.....that kid is an animal
Posted by TigerStick
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2005
1135 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

LSU needs more like Deculus.....that kid is an animal


He's re-deculus. :rimshot:
Posted by BigSlick
No Idea
Member since Jan 2013
1166 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Not many Tackles...seems to fall in place in what I thought the issues were.


I'm not bashing your opinion. It's clear that the team lacks experienced true offensive tackles. What I want to do is shed a little more light on the subject.

I started to do a similar chart a few days ago but didn't have time. What I was going to do differently was add a look at tackles that were actually available in Louisiana in the same time period. I didn't do all the research, nor do I have anything in front of me as I write, so this could be incomplete or inaccurate.

I know of only three reasonably-rated tackles from Louisiana since 2013 who didn't sign with LSU.

Robinson was never coming to LSU. The staff tried hard, and got him for a visit or two, but his mind was pretty well made up. His going to 'Bama probably figured into Stud's dismissal.

Jerry Tillery - 4-star - 2015 - committed to Notre Dame in 2013. The staff tried as hard as they could to get him to LSU, and he appeared to have been flirting with the idea, but he wound up going to his life-long dream school - where he is now playing DEFENSE.

Garrett Thomas - 3-star - 2015 - went to Texas, where he isn't listed in their 3-deep depth chart.

So, since 2014, LSU missed on two outstanding Louisiana tackles they really never had a chance at, and let a 3-star go that they didn't want. They've signed the only other 4-star from La. in the same time period, and signed two 4-stars and two 3-stars from out of state.

Considering how few home-grown tackles were available, I have to think that's actually pretty good.

Again, not bashing the OP, but it's real easy to point out that LSU has a weakness at tackle and blame Miles for it - JIMMY - but maybe the knee-jerk dogpile bunch should be intellectually honest enough to point out just where else they were supposed to look.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

BigSlick


Then you need to leave the state and get tackles. Look at what Coach O did with Arden Key. Guy was in South Carolina. You have to go where ever and get a tackle or tackles. Looks like that was done in 2015 and 2016.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19076 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 2:44 pm to
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Fehoko Fanaika-OL-no longer on team


Just housekeeping here. He was a JUCO and graduated LSU or expended his eligibility anyway. Your listing looks like he was a waste/bust. He actually played a lot of guard at LSU while he was here and helped bring in Maea Teuhema.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Look at what Coach O did with Arden Key. Guy was in South Carolina


Pretty sure Arden Key was a Georgia guy unless I'm thinking of someone else.
Posted by BigSlick
No Idea
Member since Jan 2013
1166 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Then you need to leave the state and get tackles...You have to go where ever and get a tackle or tackles. Looks like that was done in 2015 and 2016.


Certainly, and that's kinda implied in what I wrote. But, again, where were they? What players in Texas, Florida or anywhere else did LSU have a shot at? Would anyone like to provide some likely possibilities LSU missed on?

I think maybe Stud banked everything on Robinson, but don't know if that was his only choice. The year before, Pocic was a 5-star or at least close, and Dodd was a 4-star, so it's not like they weren't aware they needed to look elsewhere. And that implies they were at least trying.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76359 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 5:20 pm to
I think this is a good thread.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28649 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

I think maybe Stud banked everything on Robinson, but don't know if that was his only choice. The year before, Pocic was a 5-star or at least close, and Dodd was a 4-star, so it's not like they weren't aware they needed to look elsewhere. And that implies they were at least trying.



Trying isn't good enough. it's LSU you expect to win championships.

You expect to be a national brand.

Go get them. Go identify talent and bring them home. You can't worry about who a guy is committed to. Committed to Bama? Flip them then.

Don't tell me you tried. Show me a championship team.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:03 pm to
What we don't need is anymore soft projects!
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
4988 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:30 pm to
Well, what kills me is the stubborn insistence of playing the only guys who seem to be natural T's at fricking C or G (see Pocic, Ethan). Even with changing Oline coaches, this still continued to happen, so the answer was to get rid of the problem.

Now, we all move on and expect better.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:38 am to
I wasn't sure but thanks for clarifying.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:42 am to
To me you should be signing 5 o lineman and 5 d lineman each year.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 8:26 am to
They have to be developed and sometimes converted from dline.
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