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re: Not for the Les Miles lovers

Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:46 am to
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:46 am to
So with the Heisman favorite lining up at tailback and a QB who threw 31% completion percentage for the night, Les was supposed to abandon using LF7 and let BH throw 50 attempts?

You're a special kind of dumb.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11408 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:48 am to
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I could count the number of fricks given about this little fact on less than one finger. These rent-a-wins are great and pad your record nicely but do exactly jack shite in terms of help you win in the SEC and make it to the playoffs.
Yet again you continue to spew bs, because if we lose "rent-a-wins" like Memphis, we don't win anything.
Posted by Taurus
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:56 am to
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So with the Heisman favorite lining up at tailback and a QB who threw 31% completion percentage for the night, Les was supposed to abandon using LF7 and let BH throw 50 attempts?

You're a special kind of dumb.


The special kind of dumb is you Miles apologists. Arky came out and threw all over Ole Miss early and often. And they are a heavy run team.

It's called a game plan. Miles has none except ground and pound. That's it.

And why we struggle to beat teams.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:08 am to
So you're saying that Miles should have effectively abandoned using the most explosive offensive player of this time in favor of putting the game into the hands of a QB who was throwing 31% on the game?

That's your game plan???
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:14 am to
Ok coach.

Hey...if you're not going to use LF7 in the biggest game of your year, can I borrow him?

Sincerely - Every other coach in the business
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:35 am
Posted by JackVincennes
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
3898 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:26 am to
I don't know about passing but I would have loved to see a receiver run across Harris' face and then have a zone read with Fiurnette. We have run that a lot this year and it's tough to defend. I'm not a fire Miles guy but his inability to adjust is mind boggling. Les has never been a coordinator in his life, he should let his coordinators do their job.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:35 am to
I would have used LF7 way more wisely than toss dive 10 times, pal.

Georgia had more rushing yards than LSU vs. Bama. Think about that for a second.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:47 am to
If you can use LF7 (and this offense in general) more wisely than Coach Miles can (and for less money), I'm sure that Alleva is all ears, lol.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17271 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:51 am to
You caint beat Bama with 75% runs.
You throw 75%. But your Qb only has 3.5 seconds to get rid of the ball.
5-15 yards that's how you win.
It brings up the safety and loosens up the front 7.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3431 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:51 am to
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Hey...if you're not going to use LF7, can I borrow him?

Sincerely - Every other coach in the business


Look, I'm just reading some of your posts, and I don't understand how Miles defenders play this all-or-nothing game. The people who are wanting a more effective passing game or a running game that spreads out the defense don't want to abandon the run, but just add wrinkles to the offense that are part of nearly EVERY pro-style team or power running team. Wrinkles like jet sweeps/jet sweep motion, play action passing to TE or flats on first down, quick slants, bubble screens, tunnel screens, read and traditional options, at least run out of spread formations so the inside LBs need to cover 2 gaps instead of the 2 TE and power I formation that Les and Co. seem to want to revert to and power run it from. It's not hard to add some wrinkles to an offense. The only passes LSU seems to show are out routes, hooks and play action down the seems and sometimes a streak on the sideline.

Again, nobody is saying to STOP using Fournette, but at least give the young man some help. He is truly the best RB I've seen since AP, but a Bo Jackson/Reggie Bush hybrid couldn't have succeeded against a defense that was prepared to stop the power running game. They were winning the battles in the trenches all night, but we never attempted to use formation to open holes... just kept trying to pound it with heavy formations.

It's VERY obvious that Bama's defense has only given up yardage/lost games against teams who spread them out and attack the open spaces. You cannot beat Bama by running right at them... They are too well coached/disciplined and have a size/strength advantage on nearly everyone up front (But I'm still shocked at how they embarrassed our very good O-line). Coach Miles/Cameron need to take notes from Bama's losses and implement some changes or we will all be whining for 4 days again next year.


This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 7:54 am
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:56 am to
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yeah, because there are so many other coaches who beat Saban on a consistent basis


I hate this argument....let's never risk the chance of getting better due to the fear of getting worse.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11408 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:07 am to
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Les has never been a coordinator in his life, he should let his coordinators do their job.
Posted by Paul8489
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
26 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:10 am to
Bottom line is that Les has nothing up his sleeve.
Posted by geaux750
BTR
Member since Mar 2014
8 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:20 am to
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Going into this game everyone (except Les Miles) knew it was going to be incredibly difficult to run on Bama.


Just like it was going to be "incredibly difficult" to run on Florida? A team has to make a game plan and stick to it. If Les went into the Florida game just "knowing we won't be able to run on Florida", that game may have had a different outcome. A great team adapts and overcomes.
Posted by TigerDom
Puerto Rico
Member since Jun 2004
5570 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:29 am to
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So you're saying that Miles should have effectively abandoned using the most explosive offensive player of this time in favor of putting the game into the hands of a QB who was throwing 31% on the game?



Fournette gained 31 yards on 19 carries. That's your game plan??? Harris should have been rolled out with run-pass option. Harris would have had 3 times more yards rushing than Fournette, and Miles could have been happy with his "rushing" offense.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:37 am to
That plus play action deep passes. Trust your good WRs. We have them. Double moves, throw deep on fake WR screens, etc.

I've seen on here concern for lack of passing game and not investing in that to loosen defenses.

Guess what, the concern was spot on. Miles will NEVER invest in a passing game after the blue print of 2011 team(run, special teams, defense getting TOs).

Arky is a heavy run team and threw the ball all over Ole Miss. Guess what, our WRs are better than Arky and we don't use them near enough.
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
927 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:00 am to
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Hey...if you're not going to use LF7 in the biggest game of your year, can I borrow him?


It's not about abandoning LF all together. It's about using passes to open up the running game. It's about using him differently like passing to him in the flat. It's about doing something different that Bama isn't ready for. They were ready for everything we threw at them because we do the same thing every week.
Posted by foghat
Dallas
Member since Sep 2006
927 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:06 am to
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Just like it was going to be "incredibly difficult" to run on Florida? A team has to make a game plan and stick to it. If Les went into the Florida game just "knowing we won't be able to run on Florida", that game may have had a different outcome. A great team adapts and overcomes.


There is a difference between being ranked 18th against the run (Florida) and being ranked #2 against the run. All we are saying is that if you look at the film, they way to beat Bama is to spread them out. You aren't going to beat them with our normal game plan. If you want to come into the game thinking you can do that fine. But when it doesn't work, you need to have a backup plan. Les never has one.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1819 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:59 am to
LF7 ran for 30 yards. Henry ran for 200. If Henry continues his pace (which he will), that game could swing the voters to pick him since he destroyed the head to head match up between the teams. IDIOT
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1819 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:02 am to
says the guy who's name is "That LSU Guy". i was hoping that was a joke you posted, but i came to the conclusion from your previous posts that you are likely a moron.
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