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re: nola is a stone cold pimp
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:49 pm to harry coleman beast
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:49 pm to harry coleman beast
quote:
, i just think beede is better.
So you've said, over and over and over....
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:54 pm to JonTheTigerFan
a pitcher can dominate in different ways, but 12K's in 6.2 takes the cake, at least for tonight
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:55 pm to harry coleman beast
quote:
and he's not even the best pitcher in this game.
What about this game said Beede is the better pitcher? I didn't get a chance to watch but NOLA's line after the first 1.66 innings looks better.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:56 pm to Lester Earl
"Nola is a K machine. Beede is virtually unhittable though. Slight edge to Beede in my book"
-GT23
-GT23
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:57 pm to tigersnipen
quote:I'm not arguing either way, but ignoring part of either's performance isn't exactly a great defense.
but NOLA's line after the first 1.66 innings looks better.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 9:59 pm to ell_13
quote:
I'm not arguing either way, but ignoring part of either's performance isn't exactly a great defense.
Fair enough, I just don't see how one has an edge over the other after tonight. Apparently a few in this thread do, I am just wondering what I am missing.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:00 pm to wal marks
He gave up a run...cut him...hahaha
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:00 pm to tigersnipen
quote:
Fair enough, I just don't see how one has an edge over the other after tonight. Apparently a few in this thread do, I am just wondering what I am missing.
Gimme the Tiger!!!
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:02 pm to tigersnipen
quote:That's okay. I don't think anyone is trying to say it's obvious, but you go off of what you saw live. How they approached hitters; how they got them out; how much the struggled; getting out of jams; command; late velocity.
I just don't see how one has an edge over the other after tonight.
Depending on how much you weigh those things will affect your opinion.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:51 pm to ell_13
Most scouts seem to think Beede is a better prospect and has better stuff. I wouldn't be in any position to dispute that. But as far as a college pitcher, I am taking Nola. Beede doesn't even have a 2:1 K/BB ratio on his career. Nola is at 8:1. And that is by far the main thing a pitcher can control.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:53 pm to JonTheTigerFan
quote:
So you've said, over and over and over....
What?
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:55 pm to The Seaward
All I know is they are 2 of the best pitches in the game. Choosing 1 over the other is almost impossible, and you cant go wrong with either.
And i think Nola has more Ks and less hits given up on the year as well.
And i think Nola has more Ks and less hits given up on the year as well.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:56 pm to harry coleman beast
quote:
What?
early in the thread, it does seem like you keep repeating that you thought beede was better when no one had really contradicted you.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:57 pm to The Seaward
I said it twice. Once as a response to a post directed to me.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:58 pm to The Seaward
They weren't pitching in the same strike zone tonight at all. It's close but Nola has better stuff. If the game was at the box and he got the home field strike zone beede got he probably throws 8 shutout.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:01 pm to KG5989
It's splitting hairs. If you want to go the college pitcher route, there's no disputing what Nola's done. Beede just has the physical tools and a higher ceiling all while performing excellently through this beginning stretch.
Beede is likely going to be drafted higher, but that's not set in stone. And a higher ceiling doesn't always equate to a better career.
And even then, I don't believe Carlos Rodon has preformed as well as Beede or Nola, but that's your number one pick.
Beede is likely going to be drafted higher, but that's not set in stone. And a higher ceiling doesn't always equate to a better career.
And even then, I don't believe Carlos Rodon has preformed as well as Beede or Nola, but that's your number one pick.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:02 pm to Jesterea
Beebe has 3-4 extra MPH on his fastball when he wants it. His control isnt on Nola's level though.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:03 pm to bbap
I really don't see how there is any argument about who has been the better college pitcher. Nola's stats are clearly superior.
Beede may have the better pure stuff and be the better pro prospect though.
Beede may have the better pure stuff and be the better pro prospect though.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:04 pm to Lester Earl
3 mph on his fastball but his secondary pitches are slightly worse.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:05 pm to Jesterea
Yea Beede has a few more mph on his ball and a higher ceiling when it comes to the majors. But even though Nola doesnt have quite the speed that Beede does, is close though, he does have some serious movement on it.
I just cant sit here and say this guy is better than that guy. Even after tonight.
I just cant sit here and say this guy is better than that guy. Even after tonight.
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