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re: No Miles,Saban, or Urban, so who then? Caveat Emptor...

Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16820 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

You've effectively eliminated 90% of the rant from understanding the point of your post by using this phrase.


I think you under-shot it.

The percentage would be about 97 percent of the rant.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

ULL head coach Mark Hudspeth. Look at his record and watch some of his teams in action.

Curly 2.0

GTFO
Posted by bbqshark
North Alabama
Member since Oct 2014
23 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:52 pm to
Hudspeth is no Curly 2.0. curly wishes he could be that good.

But I digress. I thought that maybe I was responding to someone that actually has a clue.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:55 pm to
I personally believe firing Miles is an overreaction. Arguably the only issue with Miles is his inconsistent QB recruiting/development. He has shown that he is fully capable of running an aggressive, vertical offense when he has the talent. I think it is relatively easier to fix that than it is to find a new, more successful coach.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:56 pm to
Hudspeths loss to LA Tech is probably more baffling than any loss under Miles.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:57 pm to
Didn't mean to strike a nerve, Mrs. Hudspeth.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:01 pm to
When lsu hired miles he only had a 28-21 record, was 0-3 in bowl games, and 3-10 against ranked teams.

I'm pretty sure we can find another one of those. ...
Posted by Jeffreylebowski
bfegypt
Member since Dec 2012
368 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:03 pm to
These "we can't do any better" posts make me enjoy life less and less
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:05 pm to
Wait you mean that teams struggled under the new coach after the old (successful?) coach left the team in turmoil (presumably why he was fired)???

I am STUNNED.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:08 pm to
I'm not sure what Miles career pre-LSU has to do with the topic at hand. I effectively pointed out the very, very few times a coach as successful as Miles has been replaced and taken the program to a higher level. You're delusional if you think the numbers are on your side.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:10 pm to
Read the OP you dunce. Florida and Alabama were at the pinnacle of CFB when they had to replace coaches. They both failed miserably.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:13 pm to
That means nothing. What about Ohio state firing the sweater and Meyer killing the winning % since? Just pick and chose. Fact is , we have a great state for recruiting and we almost always seem to be a QB away. Nebraska, Miami, Boise state, Michigan, and Tennessee are all irrelevant.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:13 pm to
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I'm not sure what Miles career pre-LSU has to do with the topic at hand.


When he was hired that's how good he was. ... and now he's the most successful lsu coach ever.

I'd argue lsu made miles and not the other way around
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:13 pm to
So 2 of your 5 examples are teams that the coach left voluntarily while they were still on top of the college football world, correct?

So the other 3 are situations that are much more similar to what we are seeing at LSU right now. Aka, teams where the head coach was removed because the team was shitting the bed. Shockingly enough, the new coach had similar struggles.

You are an absolute idiot if you cannot find the correlation.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:15 pm to
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He was 28-49 at Ok State, not exactly lighting it up there before coming here.

For the record, he was 28-21. He coached in 49 games. To put that record in perspective, it is the best winning percentage in Okie St history post-1950 for anyone who coached at least two seasons (Gundy has since passed him).

So, yeah. He WAS lighting it up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:20 pm to
So you agree that we're highly unlikely to find a successful replacement for Miles?

It was 7 years and the 3rd coach until Alabama found Stallings after Bear. It was 11 years and the 4th coach before Alabama found Saban after Stallings. If a program like Alabama struggles that much, what makes you believe LSU will do any better?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30259 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:33 pm to
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For the record, he was 28-21. He coached in 49 games. To put that record in perspective, it is the best winning percentage in Okie St history post-1950 for anyone who coached at least two seasons (Gundy has since passed him).



I was gonna correct the record as you did, so thanks and I was going to point out that in the previous 11 years before Miles got there, Oky State had only 1 winning season. Additionally, Miles has 1/3 of his total loses in his first year at the program (7 losses that year, his only losing season there)
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 5:37 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19059 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:35 pm to
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Very long story short, any rational observer can see that there is little reason to be excited over having to replace Les Miles.


The moral to that story is that if you force out the winningest coach you have had who has a NC and couple of SEC Championships then the list of who is willing to come gets real short and they are not the ones you are looking for...
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30259 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

Curly 2.0



Probably not, Curly had this guy named Farve that made him look really good right before he got the LSU job. I blame Brett for that hire. Hud does not have anyone like that, although he has some good to very good players (not great though). If you have ever had the opportunity to hear him speak at an event, he is an excellent motivator. Probably why he'll do well at any mid level program. Not sure if his actual coaching skills will translate up to the next level (and by that I mean I literally have no idea, it is not a jab at the man).

My guess is that when UF hires Mullen away from Moo State they will consider and possibly offer Hudspeth since he was a coach there.

quote:

GTFO


Well, even though you weren't talking to me, it is time to leave the office so...
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 5:58 pm to
Greg Schiano would be a good choice. He was great at the college level, was humbled at the pro level, so he would be a great replacement for that inbred retard that takes up space on the sidelines now.

But then again....Daffy Duck would be better that Bozo Fudd.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 6:00 pm
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