re: No 1 thing Miles had Orgeron lacks

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NOTHING

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k.

The damn big cat drill has absolutely nothing to do with the teams conditioning

nevermind missread.

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The great Nick Saban's LSU Tigers got beat by Alabama 31-0 in 2002, in Tiger Stadium. That was Nick's 4th year at LSU. 

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that was his 3rd year.
2000-2004 was saban. was that the bama team that started preseason #2 and unranked

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No 1 thing Miles had Orgeron lacks

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If I read some of these posters correctly, I'd say:

Expectations.

Miles was expected to win national titles. I would say contend, but he is mercilessly slaughtered for losing in the BCS Title game (and if you make the big game, you're clearly contending). Hell, I've seen more "LSU" fans than any other fanbase make fun of the fact that 2007 was a 2 loss champion. I don't see fans of other teams sneering about their own titles, especially not BCS games where the title is won on the field.
Miles scheduled some big OOC games, and the first time his team lost one (to Wisconsin, in Green Bay), his fate was sealed.

It's mind-boggling that a fanbase that would demand this, would then rush to excuse the disaster that was on display in Starkville. We had chances to beat both Auburn and Wisconsin last year, and both those teams would likely throttle that Miss St team that wiped the floor with us.

Why are we so suddenly accepting mediocrity from the new guy?

I'm of the opinion that Miles for a long time was a great coach, he just couldn't compete with Saban & could no longer have the talent gap for his outdated schemes. Even if people disagree that Miles was at one point a great coach, they can't deny he had a philosophy & was able to execute it from all aspects of leading a program.

What is O's philosophy?? O's never even called played besides a collosal failure at Ole Miss. His spoken philosophy to this point has been whatever in the hell his media moles think the people want to hear. His actual game philosophy is just a shittier version of Les's scheme. His recruiting philosophy has been a step down from the prior regime. No one knows how the hell he manages a program, because he's been utterly incompetent at it.

Miles team competed with and defeated top ten opponents on a yearly basis. His teams had a toughness that allowed them to beat Fla and Tebow. Orgeron' s team not seen it yet.

That's just not true but I've found almost every Miles apologist exaggerates nearly all of the things they say about him so not suprised to hear this.

I'll touch on everything you said. First Miles exceeded pretty much everyone's expectations while at LSU. Sure he wasted a couple of all time great rosters but the guy won a ton of games and a national title so he deserves a lot of credit. I've said this multiple times in this thread but it doesn't seem to register so I'll say it again. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Miles style of play, it wasnt outdated and it wasn't old. The problem with Miles offense was a couple things, he started this thing where he had to pre approve every play on the call sheet before games and he started calling the checks to the QB during games. This basically neutered the OC and QB and made us completely predictable. As far as Os philosophy he never called plays at Ole Miss I don't know where you're getting that and saying he has no philosophy and Miles does because Miles has an offensive background is incorrect also. Os philosophy is to win the game at the line of scrimmage on both sides. Ppl bitched because Miles did nothing but run the ball so Ogeron brings in a more diverse OC to change that and now after getting the kind if OC everyone begged for you're attacking him for it which is typical. You say he doesn't recruit as well even though the data says you're wrong about that. Miles recruiting classes over the past 5 years, his best 5 combined BTW, have him averaging the 4th best class in the country. Those classes didn't turn out to be nearly as good as they promised to be because we've had a mass exodus of players with a large portion of them being the top guys in those classes. So while his classes maybe 4th on signing day by the time kickoff gets here they're more in the 15 range. Coach Os first class in a transition year was ranked from 5th to 7th so saying recruiting has dropped by levels is simply not true. It's funny the first 2 games when our freshmen were playing great the narrative was Miles recruited them then after Saturday when ppl started saying we aren't as talented as we thought we were the narrative changed to Ogeron can't recruit lol.

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Maybe it's the smash mouth approach

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Mile wouldn't have smashed shits with the players that were in uniform Saturday night.