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re: Next year at QB........my real concern that we're not really talking about
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:59 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:59 am to ShortyRob
If Harris is the starter, then your backup would be a guy who has started 10+ games in his career (winning the majority of them). LSU would be in a better position than 90% of teams in the nation in terms of their backup QB. Very few teams have "great" backups. There's a reason the backup isn't the starting QB.
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:03 am to bulldogger
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I just hope BH is given the chance to improve and then does so. Beating our AJ is not a given.
It also appears BH has a much higher bar to reach than Jennings when the coaches determine a starter. Does it appear that way to anyone else?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:05 am to sjmabry
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I would feel perfectly comfortable, should Harris win the starting job, with having AJ as his backup. He will improve, by what margin is debatable, and has a ton of experience. AJ would possibly be one of the safest bets at backup QB in the country.
This is just silly. Jeff Driskel has a lot of experience but there are many schools that would still not give up their Sophomore highly rated recruit for that garbage.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:06 am to ShortyRob
and Jeff Driskel would and should be a very solid backup
same thing with AJ
they should be backups
I don't get the worry
same thing with AJ
they should be backups
I don't get the worry
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:07 am to ShortyRob
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But damn, this is the SEC. QBs get dinged up or flat out put out for the season with some regularity.
I think you are recklessly inaccurate with this comment. got any data to support this.
Has any starting QB gone down with injury this year in the entire conference? I'm guessing no........but I could be wrong. At least none of the upper echelon qb's
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:07 am to ShortyRob
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Jeff Driskel has a lot of experience but there are many schools that would still not give up their Sophomore highly rated recruit for that garbage
But the catch is, you dont have to give up that sophomore. You can have an upper classman with experience an a young guy with loads of talent. Most coaches would take an older game manager as a backup any day of the week.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:09 am to pellietigersaint
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Has any starting QB gone down with injury this year in the entire conference?
has any decent SEC QB missed any significant amount playing time in the past few years?
I can't think of any
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:10 am to GumboPot
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It also appears BH has a much higher bar to reach than Jennings when the coaches determine a starter. Does it appear that way to anyone else?
I don't see it that way. I think Miles is convinced that AJ is the least likely to lose a game for us. And AJ does have a couple of clutch wins under his belt. I suspect the bad decision/ugly interception vs UK also hurt BH. 'kinda looked immature and a little desperate, when the coaches are looking for the maturity to wait on the next opportunity.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:10 am to ShortyRob
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If BH steps in, Next year, our backup will still be bad or, it will be a true freshman we recruit.
Are you serious with this shite? In this situation, our backup will be the same kid that was a backup to Mett as a freshmen, who was good enough to come in and save a win against an SEC team, and likely navigate a full season as a starter as a sophomore in the SEC.
That is about as good of a backup QB as you can ask fir , numb nuts.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:10 am to Salmon
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is it Miles fault that QBs transfer now if they don't get to play? everyone wants to play, so if guys get beat out, they transfer how is that Miles fault?
I see most schools have more than two scholarship QBs on the roster.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:11 am to TigerCub
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I see most schools have more than two scholarship QBs on the roster.
LSU will have more than 2 scholarship QBs on the roster next year
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:13 am to GumboPot
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It also appears BH has a much higher bar to reach than Jennings when the coaches determine a starter. Does it appear that way to anyone else?
Maybe BH just isn't as good as the fans think? All the hype is based off of recruiting rankings and performances against inferior teams and in garbage time against a good team who was trying to run out the clock. His one performance against a good team was as bad or worse than any of Jennings' performances. It wouldn't be the first time the fanbase has overhyped a QB
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:16 am to ShortyRob
We have been in a bind for 5 years except for Mett last year. This isn't new.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:18 am to GumboPot
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It also appears BH has a much higher bar to reach than Jennings when the coaches determine a starter. Does it appear that way to anyone else?
It's not so much the bar as it appears that we have odd calculus going on.
1)Miles' Calculus for BH. "He's got more passing ability meaning we will pass more if he's in but because of his lack of experience, that's liable to turn out bad more than we'd like".
2)AJ is a horrible passer, so, we won't use him to pass much anyway and rely wholly on the ground game."
"The latter is safer, use him!!!".
But, um, what prevented us from just riding Fournette, Hillard and McGee's jock with BH at QB and developing him?
I mean, even at the start of the season, it was readily apparent the coaches had zero confidence in AJ as an actual QB. He was more like just the guy they selected to hand the ball off. I've never understood the mindset of starting a guy you clearly have no confidence in because you are worried about the experience of the other guy unless you believe the other guy will also remain bad as he gains experience.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:19 am to SweetTeaOnionRings
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Feel bad for Jennings the kid is trying his heart out He just doesn't have the skills to play in the sec
Here's a question, has he played that much worse than the opposing QB in each of the last 4 games he has played in? At any point in those games, did you say to yourself, "damn if only that guy was our QB we wouldnt lose a game."
He obviously has the skills to play in the SEC, he is playing in the SEC currently, and has success as a starter.
He isn't the best QB in the conference, probably doesn't have the skills to ever be. But you would think we are trotting kragthorpe out there with the way people rag on him.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:25 am to pellietigersaint
quote:This year? Really?
I think you are recklessly inaccurate with this comment. got any data to support this.
I didn't say it was common. I'm merely observing that it is no so uncommon as to be discounted. Losing your QB for a week or two is hardly unheard of. I mean, they are playing FOOTBALL!!!
So, this year SEC teams have been relatively unscathed short of suspension issues. Of course, suspensions we are familiar with at LSU too. They happen.
But, just at LSU in not too distant memory, we've had to start our backup when losing Mett, Flynn, Davey, Russell. It happens. Every year? No. But it aint like you can bank on not needing your backup in football for chrissakes.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:29 am to ShortyRob
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I've never understood the mindset of starting a guy you clearly have no confidence in because you are worried about the experience of the other guy unless you believe the other guy will also remain bad as he gains experience.
Maybe if the other guy doesn't have a basic grasp of what you want him to do, it is probably better to keep him on the side until you are sure that when he messes up, you can coach him as to why.
Do you teach a kid to swim by throwing him in the deep end? Even if he was born with fins for feet, if you keep just throwing him in the deep end, he might just learn how not to drown, but never learn to use those glorious fins. It might be a better idea to let your kid that can do basic paddling, who can keep his head above water, practice in the deep end, while you keep the other one in the shallow end, a more controlled environment so he has a safety net.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:29 am to ShortyRob
There are very few programs out there that elite backup Qbs. that just doesn't really happen in College football. Especially if you QB is a younger guy.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:30 am to Doby
The excuses for sucking are already built in to the next 2 years. It's getting easier and easier to be a 3-4 loss team.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:33 am to ShortyRob
Next year the offense will be hampered by a young OL and a QB that is "still learning". I never expect a good offense from LSU anymore, just hope for the best.
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