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Negative Basketball Posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:32 pm
There is plenty you can criticize this basketball team about. I have my own list of things. But at least try to stick to facts and don't be so over the top about it. Some of the comments are just wrong.
1. Worst LSU basketball team ever. - This is so ridiculous why even bother to refute it. But since it was said. I have been watching basketball at LSU since the early 60's. So many worse teams than this. Try Trent's middle two years or how about the Tommy Thigpen, Brad Brian team that was the varsity when Pistol Pete played on the freshmen team. Everyone got up and left when the freshmen game was over.
2. We have a lazy team and it is because they take on the personality of the head coach - Really? Wow CJJ as the modern hypnotist/magician. And of course he uses this power to make his team play bad because that will mean a bonus at the end of the year.
3. CJJ never calls timeouts - Well he must be reading your posts because he took several tonight.
4. CJJ never holds players responsible for poor play - He has pulled several players this year and he gets criticized for that. Blakeney's was because of ineffective defense. Mays for several bad turnovers, etc. Perhaps he should just bench the entire starting team and start all bench players against Charleston. I'm sure no one would think that was wrong, LOL!
5. Hayward didn't look good on defense - Actually he did good in the first half, had a steal, kept his hands up and hustled . Second half he did lose his man a few times on picks but that was the case for the whole team for the whole game.
This time last year we were 5-4 and this year we are 7-2. If we can get a winning record in SEC games it will be a successful year despite what you negative posters think. At this time last year everyone thought we would be a terrible team. We have been picked to finish 12th out of 14 teams in the SEC. We will do much better than that. The main problem with this team is consistency.
1. Worst LSU basketball team ever. - This is so ridiculous why even bother to refute it. But since it was said. I have been watching basketball at LSU since the early 60's. So many worse teams than this. Try Trent's middle two years or how about the Tommy Thigpen, Brad Brian team that was the varsity when Pistol Pete played on the freshmen team. Everyone got up and left when the freshmen game was over.
2. We have a lazy team and it is because they take on the personality of the head coach - Really? Wow CJJ as the modern hypnotist/magician. And of course he uses this power to make his team play bad because that will mean a bonus at the end of the year.
3. CJJ never calls timeouts - Well he must be reading your posts because he took several tonight.
4. CJJ never holds players responsible for poor play - He has pulled several players this year and he gets criticized for that. Blakeney's was because of ineffective defense. Mays for several bad turnovers, etc. Perhaps he should just bench the entire starting team and start all bench players against Charleston. I'm sure no one would think that was wrong, LOL!
5. Hayward didn't look good on defense - Actually he did good in the first half, had a steal, kept his hands up and hustled . Second half he did lose his man a few times on picks but that was the case for the whole team for the whole game.
This time last year we were 5-4 and this year we are 7-2. If we can get a winning record in SEC games it will be a successful year despite what you negative posters think. At this time last year everyone thought we would be a terrible team. We have been picked to finish 12th out of 14 teams in the SEC. We will do much better than that. The main problem with this team is consistency.
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:48 pm to Tom Bronco
The facts are Johnny Jones should have never been hired.
You can't dispute that. His record at North Texas didn't warrant a hiring. He got the job because, he's one of us.
You can't dispute that. His record at North Texas didn't warrant a hiring. He got the job because, he's one of us.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:55 pm to dgnx6
JJ has been here long enough to have established his program. Accepting that UK is in another world, he's been lucky that the SEC as a whole has been down, so the competition in the league has not been that difficult to get around. And yet he's still losing SEC games regularly. He was hired for one reason: Dale Brown.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 9:55 pm to Tom Bronco
How bout his idiotic philosophy of benching all players once they get 2 fouls, saving them for 2H, even when the team goes from down 8, to down 15, to down 20...
He is one of the worst in game coaches in D-1A.
He is one of the worst in game coaches in D-1A.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:16 pm to Tom Bronco
Victor is pretty fuvking good, when he wants to play. and #1 (I'm afraid) will save JJ'S job.
ETA: How in the hell do we have worst FT shooting in the SEC? That's coaching!!!! no excuse. Before the game the other team pretty much says I'm going to give you a free 15-20 points tonight. LSU says thanks, but on average we will take 7-12. no excuse.
ETA: How in the hell do we have worst FT shooting in the SEC? That's coaching!!!! no excuse. Before the game the other team pretty much says I'm going to give you a free 15-20 points tonight. LSU says thanks, but on average we will take 7-12. no excuse.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:21 pm to Tom Bronco
This team is a Poor Rebounding, Poor Defensive and Poor on Fundamentals team. And you want to point out its winning record this year compared to last year, well what are the records of the teams they've faced and what's LSU strength of schedule ranking? Jones has been here long enough and to be playing a shite non-conference schedule like he has this year is an insult.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 10:44 pm to TeamLSU
quote:We are rebounding 2 more per game than our opponents. Doesn't make us a great rebounding team but surely not a poor one. We have 5.1 blocks per game vs 2.9 for opponents. Do we need to improve on defense. Yes we do but we aren''t as bad as you paint it.
This team is a Poor Rebounding, Poor Defensive and Poor on Fundamentals team.
We are playing the same type teams this year as we did last year so I think it is fair to compare them.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:19 am to dgnx6
quote:As an Alumnus, I will demand that he is removed at the end of this season.
The facts are Johnny Jones should have never been hired. You can't dispute that. His record at North Texas didn't warrant a hiring. He got the job because, he's one of us.
Enough is enough. Most of us can see that he's in way over his head.
Do what I do. Boycott the games. Nothing has an effect like empty seats in the PMAC. The place has to be literally empty for anything to be done.
I figure that will happen about half way into the SEC schedule......
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:58 am to UnoMe
quote:No that's on the player. How much coaching do you think it takes to teach how to shoot a free throw? Every high school player has gotten all the coaching they need. When Shaq was here and even more so when he was a pro, they brought in specialists to try and improve his free throw shooting. So was it coaching that made him so bad?
ETA: How in the hell do we have worst FT shooting in the SEC? That's coaching!!!!
Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:00 am to dgnx6
quote:
The facts are Ed Orgeron should have never been hired.
You can't dispute that. His record at Ole Miss didn't warrant a hiring. He got the job because, he's one of us.
shite
Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:07 am to semjase
quote:
As an Alumnus, I will demand that he is removed at the end of this season.
That'll show 'em
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:24 am to dgnx6
quote:. Agreed. Aleva didn't try very hard to get a good or even just a decent coach. Jones is the worst coach LSU has ever had and it's not even close.
The facts are Johnny Jones should have never been hired.
You can't dispute that. His record at North Texas didn't warrant a hiring. He got the job because, he's one of us.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:59 am to Tom Bronco
No matter the coach or the sport, I always support them if they are wearing purple and gold. I give them the benefit of the doubt longer than most, and stay positive even when it gets bad. I would be a horrible athletic director, but thankfully my chemistry education at LSU has given me means to not apply for that job lol.
That being said, I shake my head during games. I cannot believe the product on the floor. Like someone said, when february rolls around and the actual attendance is less than 2000, alleva might get the message
That being said, I shake my head during games. I cannot believe the product on the floor. Like someone said, when february rolls around and the actual attendance is less than 2000, alleva might get the message
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:17 am to Tom Bronco
This will probably get whacked but we have Southland/SWAC talent level other then Blankly on the team. Kentucky is going to skill frick us. Jones scheduling all this cupcakes and they almost beat us... well next week there will be no more hiding behind cupcakes... prepare your anus
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:30 am to Tom Bronco
I completely agree OP. These basketball post have gotten out of hand and are more miserable than football season. People make this site miserable.
Oh and to add to your list. Someone tried saying we have the talent of a swac or Southland school. We have sec talent. For sure. Still really young and suspect coach. Talent not problem
Oh and to add to your list. Someone tried saying we have the talent of a swac or Southland school. We have sec talent. For sure. Still really young and suspect coach. Talent not problem
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:37 am to LSU1SLU
Yeah these 8pt wins vs swac and meac schools is inspiring. This really is sad. We can't even beat the shite out of the cupcakes on the schedule; how the hell are we supposed to inspire any confidence during conference play
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:37 am to Tom Bronco
quote:
We are rebounding 2 more per game than our opponents. Doesn't make us a great rebounding team but surely not a poor one.
No. We have played very poor competition. We outrebounded Texas Southern by 2 and they started forwards who are 6'5 and 6'7. There are stretches where we don't block out at all.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:41 am to tom
Don't forget the 6'7" forward that had 16 boards last night.... we still haven't blocked him out
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:16 am to Tom Bronco
While I agree that many posters go overboard in criticism, I think that there is a frustration in the status quo being expressed.
None of Jones teams at LSU have been excellent defensive teams. There is a lack of cohesion, help, and toughness on the defensive end. Players are often out of position. I could go on.
We rebound with inconsistent effort and use athleticism only. Last night was a good example of the lack of blocking out. We gave up 15 offensive rebounds. Many times the opposing player flew in unopposed to the basket for a put back.
Based on what I've seen from Jones teams, I don't think we'll sink to the lows of Johnson (I hope not), but wonder if he will ever get an LSU team back to the NCAA tourney. I certainly don't see one on the court so far this year.
None of Jones teams at LSU have been excellent defensive teams. There is a lack of cohesion, help, and toughness on the defensive end. Players are often out of position. I could go on.
We rebound with inconsistent effort and use athleticism only. Last night was a good example of the lack of blocking out. We gave up 15 offensive rebounds. Many times the opposing player flew in unopposed to the basket for a put back.
Based on what I've seen from Jones teams, I don't think we'll sink to the lows of Johnson (I hope not), but wonder if he will ever get an LSU team back to the NCAA tourney. I certainly don't see one on the court so far this year.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:35 am to Tom Bronco
quote:
We are rebounding 2 more per game than our opponents
And that's usually against teams that are much smaller than Lsu .Also Lsu doesn't have the WANT to compete for 40 minutes, and that's not coming from me that's come from a player that said in an interview "we can defend when we WANT to ".This is why We see Lsu come out and get down by double digits early,then lock down and claw back late to sneak out a win.It's also part of the reason we see like last night Lsu jumps up by double digits and all of a sudden the lead is gone just as the WANT to play D ,rebound etc.is also gone,Lsu doesn't mind trading baskets.
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