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Miles should be given absolute credit for developing
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:14 am
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:14 am
the rest of the team. I myself have been somewhat critical of Miles in recent times but I have to ask myself and others this: why are we so venomous and angry at a man who has been responsible for an unbelievably talented young defense, perhaps the nations best special teams, and an offense that with the exception of one position, could compete for a conference title? If I'm honest with myself I have to admit the direction of the team is positive and if he gets blame for the problems he must get credit for the positives. He doesn't. Why is that?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:17 am to geauxjo
We are frustrated because we have no Quarterback. How at LSU you can competely drop the ball on recruiting and developing a QB is beyond me? I do give him credit on getting the rest of this team together, but it will fall apart soon without a viable option at QB.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:19 am to geauxjo
Miles destroyed the defense. It's not like he took over a bad situation. I guess you can say he deserves credit for fixing his mistake.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:23 am to TigerFanNKaty
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
We are frustrated because we have no Quarterback. How at LSU you can competely drop the ball on recruiting and developing a QB is beyond me? I do give him credit on getting the rest of this team together, but it will fall apart soon without a viable option at QB.
Agreed. It's one position but a major one. It will limit our ability to succeed. Still....tons of positives. And I didn't even mention recruiting.
We are frustrated because we have no Quarterback. How at LSU you can competely drop the ball on recruiting and developing a QB is beyond me? I do give him credit on getting the rest of this team together, but it will fall apart soon without a viable option at QB.
Agreed. It's one position but a major one. It will limit our ability to succeed. Still....tons of positives. And I didn't even mention recruiting.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:23 am to skullhawk
Miles has brought some coaches WHO FIXED the D. After his incompetency had destroyed it.
..have you forgotten the Co-Defense Coordinators..
his doing.
..have you forgotten the Co-Defense Coordinators..
his doing.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:23 am to skullhawk
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Posted by skullhawk
Miles destroyed the defense. It's not like he took over a bad situation. I guess you can say he deserves credit for fixing his mistake.
You guess?
Posted by skullhawk
Miles destroyed the defense. It's not like he took over a bad situation. I guess you can say he deserves credit for fixing his mistake.
You guess?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:26 am to skullhawk
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Miles destroyed the defense. It's not like he took over a bad situation. I guess you can say he deserves credit for fixing his mistake.
I think its stupid to say this. Its not like he fired Pelini and went another direction.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:26 am to geauxjo
quote:You are right, when you focus on the direction of our Defense and Special Teams. You are right that one running back seems to be stepping up and becoming really special. But if you consider this is the second year in a row where our offense, and in particular the starting QB, are clearly drowning (and this was very apparent well before the end of last season), and that has not been fixed, it is legit to look at this problem critically.
I have to admit the direction of the team is positive and if he gets blame for the problems he must get credit for the positives.
Yes, I give CLM credit for good things.
Hiring Chavis to fix the Defense -> A+
Developing Special Teams -> A+
Recruiting in general -> A+
But...
Improving the offense -> D-
Making appropriate changes in staff (OC) -> D-
Developing skill positions -> D-
Utilizing talent appropriately -> D-
The question becomes: Why can only one area at a time be "fixed" and then only after the end of the season (if at all)? The offense is obviously BROKEN and CLM continues to down-play the problem. Does he really think it will go away if he ignores it? If he would really level with the fan base, and make some obviously needed changes, then maybe he would gain some credibility and get more credit than criticism.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:29 am to rbdallas
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..have you forgotten the Co-Defense Coordinators..
his doing.
you can't expect a human to be perfect, just that he recognizes his mistakes and fixes them.
Gary Crowton should be next on the guillotine.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:29 am to rbdallas
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Miles has brought some coaches WHO FIXED the D. After his incompetency had destroyed it.
..have you forgotten the Co-Defense Coordinators..
his doing.
The '05, '06, and '07 teams were also his doing. He made a mistake by assuming Malveto could run a Pelini defense and then promptly fixed it by bringing in Chavis.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:29 am to geauxjo
Overall, I think he's doing a damn good job this year. He and his staff are playing to our strengths. I am hopeful, damn near confident, these Rantard turds, will have a platefull of crow to eat soon enough.
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:32 am to OTIS2
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Overall, I think he's doing a damn good job this year. He and his staff are playing to our strengths. I am hopeful,
what games are you watching ???
there are individual coaches who are doing a good job with their duties....certainly NOT the offense.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:33 am to SG_Geaux
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Don't try to bring logic, reason, and rational thought in to here.
According to the nega tigers, anything bad is Miles fault and anything good is in spite of him.
This isn't about being a positiger or a negatiger
He doesn't get involved with the defensive side of the ball at all
He should be given credit for recruiting and running a class program. I don't know that he should be given credit for developing our defensive players.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:35 am to ZTiger87
I don't blame him so much for 08 it was a bad decision, but he probably believed with the talent we had that keeping continuity would be better that bringing in a new coach and scheme. But it seemed like the two headed monster changed scheme anyway. I thinks he is in a tough spot this year, he now knows JJ is not the answer as is regressing, but he doesn't seem for whatever reason to have faith that Lee can do better, so he is trying not to ruin JJ. He is keeping it simple with more power running. But this is leading to poor passing becuase the QB and recievers are not getting into a rhythm. I think that is why JJ is getting so frustrated, Miles is running becuase he know it is his best option, but the passing game is suffering because of it.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:36 am to rbdallas
quote:The four we've won.
what games are you watching
quote:Threads about the head coach. His name is Les Miles. I'm not a fan of his OC, but I think otherwise, he's assembled a good staff that is doing a good job with the material we have. I think he has done a great job recruiting and we have a fine season ahead of us. You ready to break out of the herd of sheep and think for yourself or content to just stand in the crowd and bitch?
there are individual coaches who are doing a good job with their duties....certainly NOT the offense.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:37 am to geauxjo
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How at LSU you can competely drop the ball on recruiting and developing a QB is beyond me?
He got Perrilloux here. People would have hung him if he had not. It is not his fault the kid turned out to be a knucklehead.
He got Zach Lee here. Not his fault the kid took the money and ran.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:37 am to rbdallas
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there are individual coaches who are doing a good job with their duties....certainly NOT the offense.
As a whole the offense has improved...unfortunately the QB position is about the same.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:38 am to Powerman
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I don't know that he should be given credit for developing our defensive players.
He hired Chavis. He gets credit for the defense.
You can not blame him for Mallveto and not give him credit for Chavis.
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 7:40 am to geauxjo
geauxjo - You make valid points and with the recruiting to add to his list of positives, the QB situation is one GREAT BIG problem that almost trumps any of the other great things that is being done. The one position that can destroy a teams morale is developing right in front of our faces. Miles sees the light at the end of the tunnel but he doesn't know whether it's a train or something else. He's rolling the dice like the riverboat gambler that he was in 2007. He's a gambler. He's playing it close to the vest. In 2007 you had Skyler catching a pass to beat Auburn with one second left on the clock, the over the shoulder toss from Flynn to Colt David and you had the fourth down game against Florida. His biggest gamble in that season was holding down Perrilloux in the first half of the SEC champ. game against Tenn. He let him throw downfield the rest of the game and MILES "legacy" lasted one more game against Ohio State. His other accomplishments since the NC game has been to win 2 bowl games and have Top 10 recruiting classes. He has to gamble in order to be successful but he is definitely conservative right now.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 7:42 am
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