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re: Miles says qb battle is open again

Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:42 am to
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Yes. Unless you are a moron that doesn't think the coaches want to win.


Denial is not a river in Egypt!
Posted by magicman0001
Cresson, TX (DFW area)
Member since Dec 2008
1129 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:43 am to
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I think the problem might be with fans thinking Harris was the best overall quarterback in the country for some reason.


This. And let's be honest, Miles doesn't have a good record for recruiting QB's. Whether the issue is talent, developmental problems, character, etc. Other than Mett, his record stinks.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77353 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:44 am to
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I think the problem might be with fans thinking Harris was the best overall quarterback in the country for some reason.


I'll put my posting reputation on the line. I think he has a chance of being a great college qb. And we are blowing it not playing him.

Do I expect Harris to start next year? Nope. Why? Because of experience watching how the position is handled by our coaches. We have never changed starters in the offseason. For a QB change to occur, one of the must get hurt or create a ton of turnovers (almost impossible to do in our current scheme).

Even if said change would occur, the original QB will get more rope than the replacement.
Posted by matt314
Member since Oct 2009
183 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:44 am to
Every indication that Harris needs to be at Northwestern State.

Our QB situation is completely screwed, just like it was at OSU in Miles last year.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:46 am to
Flynn and Mett were thankfully not developed under Miles. Flynn was a Saban recruit and product while Mett developed under Richt and a JC. Miles has yet to recruit and develop a competent quarterback. Although he is consistent.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:46 am to
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I think he has a chance of being a great college qb


I do too.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:48 am to
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I think the problem might be with fans thinking Harris was the best overall quarterback in the country for some reason


He doesn't have to be the best qb in the country, but he is better that the worst qb in the country and that is Jennings.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:48 am to
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Flynn and Mett were thankfully not developed under Miles. Flynn was a Saban recruit and product while Mett developed under Richt and a JC. Miles has yet to recruit and develop a competent quarterback. Although he is consistent.


Mett improved dramatically at lsu from 2012 to 2013.
If that's not development then you are just putting hate blinders on.

Flynn spent three years under miles. If you give miles zero credit for Flynn and all saban, that's irrational.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202721 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:49 am to
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Did he start the right one in 2005-2007, 2012-2013?


Sure. But he didn't recruit either one.... NOW He also hasn't come close to having a QB as good as those... HIS FAULT..

Bottom line is he is a liar. Many times this year he has said that Harris will see the field and then crawfished his way out after not playing him. AJ WILL start next year no matter what.
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:49 am to
lmao! Les is trying to save his own arse after a pitiful season. Harris was supposed to play in the last few games also.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:50 am to
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Miles sticks to one guy no matter how bad they look


1/9 Proved this beyond any doubt...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:51 am to
flynn was developed by Saban's OC, not saban
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:52 am to
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flynn was developed by Saban's OC, not saban


Believe me. I 100% know this.
But a lot of people want to turn this into a head coach thing with quarterbacks.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:52 am to
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Sure. But he didn't recruit either one.... NOW He also hasn't come close to having a QB as good as those... HIS FAULT..

Bottom line is he is a liar. Many times this year he has said that Harris will see the field and then crawfished his way out after not playing him. AJ WILL start next year no matter what.


This
People who believe otherwise probably fall for craiglist scams also.
Posted by LiveGold
Louisiana/Texas/Cali/NY
Member since Nov 2011
730 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:53 am to
Nope! All lies. He'll start AJ and we'll just have to deal with it. Love Les, but how many times have we heard, "Harris will see the field?" They let one start at Auburn completely ruin and define his season.

Never mind when AJ came in, he didn't fair any better than Brandon did. He struggled also. If you're going to play a two QB system, then play that system. If you prefer to stick with AJ, stick with him, but don't feed to fans and media that it's a battle and BH will still see the field, only that isn't the case.

Transparency is all we ask!
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:53 am to
it's not about the head coach, it's more of a debate about head coaches and their offensive coaches/recruiting

it's pretty clear saban outshines miles in this regard. look at what he's done at Bama with multiple QBs and OCs
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:55 am to
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Mett improved dramatically at lsu from 2012 to 2013.
If that's not development then you are just putting hate blinders on.

Flynn spent three years under miles. If you give miles zero credit for Flynn and all saban, that's irrational.


Your love blinders are making you irrationally supportive of a staff/system that has yet to prove it can develop a QB. I would submit that both Flynn's and Mett's ability prevented CLM from sucking all the talent from them and turning them into shitty players. Of all the credit you can throw to Miles, QB development ain't it. If you feel otherwise, why haven't they done anything with a QB this year? (Other than stagnate/regress)?
Posted by matt314
Member since Oct 2009
183 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:55 am to
Flynn spent three years under Jimbo Fisher - the guy that actually recruited him. He's a very good college OC, unlike Miles brother from another mother we have collecting a huge salary to take up space in that job right now.
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Mett improved dramatically at lsu from 2012 to 2013.
If that's not development then you are just putting hate blinders on.


Well thinking along SPF's logic, Cam developed Mett...not Miles. Mett also wasnt as raw as the two we have now. He had some experience at the college level prior to coming to LSU...certainly not SEC level experience but experience none the less.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 11:58 am to
Both had early stage development with top tier QB coaching staffs and acquired the needed tools to build with. Name one QB that Miles recruited and developed into a quality, dependable asset.
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