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re: Miles record vs. SEC coaching peers
Posted on 7/30/12 at 12:21 pm to tigercat70
Posted on 7/30/12 at 12:21 pm to tigercat70
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Because he is basically an idiot who would rather lose than play all his options.
It is truly scary that people with this mindset are running around lose in the community.
This post was edited on 7/30/12 at 2:12 pm
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Posted on 7/30/12 at 12:27 pm to DanglingFury
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Btw...other coaches that have shite the bed in championship games: Osborne, Bowden, Spurrier, Stoops, Carroll.
You can add the late great SweaterVest (Senator Tressell) to that list.
Despite what happened on 1/9, IMHO anyone that doesn't appreciate all that Coach Miles has accomplished either isn't very intelligent or became an LSU fan a few days ago.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 1:38 pm to LSUZombie
quote:I know this is an unpopular position for the ones who want to "move on." But moving on will require righting this terrible wrong. There is only one way to do that - you know what that is, I know, and everybody here (even the ones who won't talk about it except to criticize those who do) knows it. Sadly, nothing less is going to fix things. But the good news is, it's a new season and we're loaded. So if we play to our potential and even rise above it sometimes from game to game, we should have a pretty good shot at winning it all. And that means we beat Bama (at least once) this time. I say punish them!
Not the loss itself, I can take a good hard-fought loss, but the way we lost.
This post was edited on 7/30/12 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/30/12 at 1:41 pm to Fermat
you omitted nutt from your positive spun short list
Posted on 7/30/12 at 1:45 pm to Fermat
Miles does not suck 100% of the time.
And to be clear, losing a game is ok with me if we try to win it, we try to compete.
1/9 there was no will by the CS to affect the game.
so by those standards, Miles sucked egg that day.
outside of that beatdown, he has been really good. ole miss two years ago, he sucked.
for the most part, everytime he has shite the bed, he has not repeated that mistake.
lets see if he can remedy the 'lets do nothing to change the flow of the game' mentality he picked up in jan.
And to be clear, losing a game is ok with me if we try to win it, we try to compete.
1/9 there was no will by the CS to affect the game.
so by those standards, Miles sucked egg that day.
outside of that beatdown, he has been really good. ole miss two years ago, he sucked.
for the most part, everytime he has shite the bed, he has not repeated that mistake.
lets see if he can remedy the 'lets do nothing to change the flow of the game' mentality he picked up in jan.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 1:56 pm to PhiTiger1764
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You are an idiot.
Gonna have to agree with you on this one. Growler is a tard.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:13 pm to SenseiBuddy
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Miles does not suck 100% of the time.... For the most part, every time he has shite the bed, he has not repeated that mistake.
Kinda true, except over the years *CLM has consistently found creative and unexpectedly untimely ways to soil those sheets.Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:13 pm to SenseiBuddy
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1/9 there was no will by the CS to affect the game.
Interesting statement.
Do you mean that the staff didn't want to win the game?
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:14 pm to JawjaTigah
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Kinda true, except over the years *CLM has consistently found creative and unexpectedly untimely ways to soil those sheets
Creative how?
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:31 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:Creative as in the "clock it" Ole Miss game. And creative as in: the "keep JJ in the entire game on 1/9, in spite of reality" game. Want more?
Creative how?
This post was edited on 7/30/12 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:38 pm to JawjaTigah
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Want more?
sure
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:46 pm to Gray Tiger
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1/9 there was no will by the CS to affect the game.
No, im sure the CS wanted to win, however nothing they did past the 3rd qtr looked like they were trying to affect in a different way what had been done for the first 3 qtrs of play. Do you disagree with that? if so, what did you see that i didnt see as proof that the CS did try to change something past the 3rd qtr?
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:52 pm to Fermat
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Saban has been at Alabama 5 yrs now.
In the past 5
Miles - 53 wins
Saban - 55 wins
5 of Saban's wins were vacated due to NCAA sanctions
Saban has 50 wins @ Bama
Posted on 7/30/12 at 2:59 pm to JawjaTigah
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Creative as in the "clock it" Ole Miss game. And creative as in: the "keep JJ in the entire game on 1/9, in spite of reality" game. Want more?
Coaches make mistakes in judgement. I think Miles has taken the blame for both of these situations. What exactly is "creative" about a lapse in judgement. I'm happier than anybody that JJ is gone and wanted to see JL get a chance to do something in the NC game....but I truly believe that based on the ridiculous pressure that Bama's defense was putting on LSU and JL's history against that team and that type of pressure, Miles thought that a mobile QB gave LSU the best chance to win. Even in hindsight, I have a hard time questioning his judgement on that one. Going into the championship game JJ was 26 for 40, 2 TD and 0 INT, 86 yards rushing in his career against Bama. Lee was 24 for 58, 1 TD and 7 INT, -3 yards rushing.
This post was edited on 7/30/12 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:01 pm to LSUZombie
still find it ridiculous to call the sec champion nothing. losing the nc, to ala-fkin-bama, without scoring still makes me want to 
Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:21 pm to JawjaTigah
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Creative as in the "clock it" Ole Miss game
So is it your position tha Mikes "created" having a clock issue in a single game? That no other coach had ever had a clock issue? Is that what Miles created? He originated that?
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And creative as in: the "keep JJ in the entire game on 1/9, in spite of reality" game.
What reality? I am sure that you have a deep deep insight into the LSU game plan, the individual capabilities of each and every player in each and every possible game situation to be able to make that statement.
So how was that decision "creative"? How was Miles decisions different from any other coach that has left his starter in a game when the game was going poorly? Is this what Miles created? Was he the first to ever do that?
Please give me more examples of something that Miles "created" that hadn't been done in a game before. (I'll give the grass thingy
)Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:32 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:Oh now I understand what you're objecting to. You want my use of "creative" to mean a literal act. But in my original use, I meant it differently, as in a more unexpected, random and probably dumb thing done or left undone, that could not have been predicted or expected and yet it still happened as a result of coaching decisions made.
So is it your position tha Mikes "created" having a clock issue in a single game? That no other coach had ever had a clock issue? Is that what Miles created? He originated that?
For clarity: Mine was meant as sarcasm.
Now be sure you don't hear what I didn't say. I didn't say other HCs are not sometimes "creative" in that same way when they lose unexpectedly, and for dumb or possibly avoidable reasons. And I didn't say that Coach Miles isn't "creative" in winning some of his games - because I think he is sometimes very creative in that way - in doing the unexpected at random points, as in his "riverboat gambling" plays in various games.
This post was edited on 7/30/12 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:39 pm to JawjaTigah
Miles should be here for a long time. GOtta love it.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:49 pm to Rocket
quote:I do love the guy and do want him to stay at LSU.
Miles should be here for a long time. GOtta love it.
It's just sometimes he drives me absolutely crazy. Like at the 1/9 game. Surely he knew something was going on that night with the team - something that we witnessed but didn't understand.
While he had JL and Mett nailed to the bench, he kept JJ in the game, in spite of his play that night being totally futile and ineffective. The whole unbeaten season on the line...
That's what drives me crazy, for what might have been, but wasn't to be.
I can only think Miles did what he did for what seemed to him alone to be some good reason that night. And maybe nobody feels worse about it now than him. But we'll never really know... and that drives me crazy, too.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 3:54 pm to JawjaTigah
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It's just sometimes he drives me absolutely crazy. Like at the 1/9 game. Surely he knew something was going on that night with the team - something that we witnessed but didn't understand
Once you forgive him for being different from Saban, it's all good. Success is sweet.
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