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re: Miles only reasonable choice
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 am to ianfson1
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 am to ianfson1
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I think its safe to assume that the possibility at least exist that the four players "involved" in the bar fight will face some type of disciplinary action by the University/Athletic Dept. I think the possibility also exist that if they play and said disciplinary action does occur and/or an NCAA investigation is involved after the police investigation is concluded, a win over Oregon would not be worth much. While I am totally in the camp that one is innocent until proven guilty, my suggestion for action from Les Miles/Athletic dept seems like the lesser of the possible evils.
This is bad post. It is possibly the worse post on TD and someone needs to remove said post before it gets any worse.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:26 am to memphis tiger
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THIS IS NOT AT ALL AN NCAA ISSUE.
Like it or not, being arrested or charged with this type of crime does not break NCAA eligibility rules. All 4 players could be arrsted, charged, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law and if Miles wanted he could play them up until the day their jail sentence starts and the NCAA couldn't do dick about it.
True, but the controlling dicks at LSU would fire Miles........but, this will not happen....
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:29 am to ianfson1
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Sorry, I just don't have the confidence that you have in what or what the NCAA can or can not do
It's not a matter of confidence, dumb arse, it's a matter of understanding wha thte NCAA is and does.
Again, THIS IS NOT AN NCAA ISSUE and at least 50 years of history back this up
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:31 am to rossman
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THIS IS NOT AT ALL AN NCAA ISSUE.
This!!!
Like I said, I don't have that much confidence in what is or is not an NCAA issue and am not prepared to take the chance given the possible consequences.
And as I also said, its not just about the NCAA's involvement that I'm concerned about.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:33 am to tadelatt
This is bad post. It is possibly the worse post on TD and someone needs to remove said post before it gets any worse.
And you are?
And you are?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:34 am to memphis tiger
Memphis is correct. The NCAA cannot and will not do anything regarding this situation. No NCAA rules were broken. This is not Roger Goodell's NFL.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:34 am to ianfson1
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And you're prepared to take that chance in this case?
There is NO chance being taken by playing JJ or anyone else involved.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:35 am to rossman
Just to back up what Memphis said. The NCAA has no role in this matter. They can all play then be arrested the next day. Left in jail for a week. Get out and play the next game. And the NCAA can do nothing. There is no possible way they can be ruled ineligible by the NCAA. I really wish we could sticky that, so at least then people would stop worrying and the NCAA.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:35 am to ianfson1
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Like I said, I don't have that much confidence in what is or is not an NCAA issue and am not prepared to take the chance given the possible consequences.
And as I also said, its not just about the NCAA's involvement that I'm concerned about.
Yes cause you are a moron that doesn't know shite about the NCAA or college sports... And that is a fact based on your stupid arse posts.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:35 am to will1883
quote:I can see him doing this, but really this is not like an injury that he enjoys being coy and evasive about so it doesn't give the competition an advantage. This is a criminal (potentially) matter that really needs to be handled without consideration of the competitive edge. Miles needs to react swiftly and candidly in this circumstance. This issue should be addressed with total disregard for any kind of gamemanship. He needs to be open, forthcoming and timely with his response.
I believe that Miles already knows who he will and will not play against Oregon. He probably just doesn't see much good in announcing it now, rather than 8 days from now, which I agree with.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 9:39 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:35 am to ianfson1
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I don't have that much confidence in what is or is not an NCAA issue and am not prepared to take the chance given the possible consequences.
You really must be that stupid.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:36 am to memphis tiger
It's not a matter of confidence, dumb arse, it's a matter of understanding wha thte NCAA is and does.
I see, I don't agree with you so I'm a dumb arse.
Nice. Very sensible response.
I see, I don't agree with you so I'm a dumb arse.
Nice. Very sensible response.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:38 am to ianfson1
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Nice. Very sensible response.
It's a lot more sensible then your posts.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:39 am to ianfson1
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That didn't work so well for Duke
How soon we forget!!!
Let's see if Joe learned anything from that.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:39 am to ianfson1
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Like I said, I don't have that much confidence in what is or is not an NCAA issue and am not prepared to take the chance given the possible consequences.
No offense, but your confidence in what is or is not an NCAA issue is not relevant here. That is why LSU has coaches, ADs, and compliance people. All of those people, along with most people who are knowledgeable about the NCAA, understand that this is not a "NCAA issue" as you put it. That is the correct answer whether you want to understand that or not.
Again, I'm not trying to be an arse, but just because you don't understand something doesn't make it incorrect.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:39 am to Philosoraptor
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Yes cause you are a moron that doesn't know shite about the NCAA or college sports... And that is a fact based on your stupid arse posts.
Question--is this how you respond to everything you disagree with?
Bet you're a real pleasure to be around.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:42 am to ianfson1
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I see, I don't agree with you so I'm a dumb arse.
No, you're a dumbass because there is nothing to agree with. It's not an opinion--the NCAA can absolutely without question NOT rule these guys ineligible for what transpired at Shady's. Accept it and move on.
That said, I have been for an indefinite suspension so the backups--mainly Lee--can start getting more reps. Apparently Les and the coaches would rather use this to his advantage so that Oregon can't be sure exactly who's playing. Fair enough. I'll trust them to do that.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:46 am to ianfson1
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ianfson1
Stop for a second, take a breath.
Listen closely... the NCAA does not govern eligibility based on criminal activity. The NCAA governs such things as recruiting, grades and medical status.
For example - Masoli, despite his multiple run ins with the law played for 2 D1 schools as did Newton just last year. In contrast, Miami has over a dozen players that may be ineligible for recieving inproper benefits from a booster but have not been arrested for anything.
You would think committing a crime would affect a players status but it doesn't, it's simply not part of the formula.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:46 am to rossman
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Again, I'm not trying to be an arse, but just because you don't understand something doesn't make it incorrect.
Look, first of all I didn't say I don't understand how the NCAA works (although I'm not sure even most compliance depts fully understand it). But my post was a about a great deal more than possible NCAA ramifications. I think the rest of it stands on its on merit. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind, but some of the responses I've gotten reminds me of the pathetic nature of our current political situation---if you don't agree me or see things the way I see them, then you are a moron or a dumb arse. It's just sad the level of ignorance that comes out.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:46 am to ianfson1
The Duke Lacrosse Team agrees.
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