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Miles Continuing Clock Management Problems
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:15 am
Although not the most frustrating thing last night, it is pretty obvious that Miles is never going to learn how to manage the clock no matter the consequences. I have no idea how someone can continually be so poor in this aspect of the job (especially since he doesn't coach a position, let alone a unit). I'm sure I am missing several but a sample of the major times where he has screwed up the clock:
-07 Auburn* (won anyway)
-09 Georgia (blew a chance at FG at end of 1st half)
-09 Ole Miss (one of the most infamous clock management fiascos by a coach, likely cost LSU the game)
-10 Tennessee (honestly, even worse than Ole Miss. Sent a whole new personnel group onto the field while time was running down, confused Tennessee so badly they had 13 on the field, hilarious to watch in retrospect)
-14 Auburn (didn't matter in terms of outcome but an egregious mistake).
I'm sure I'm missing a few.
*07 Auburn: I realize some people have decided that he handled the clock well that game. He didn't. Here is the full game:
LINK
Go to 3:02:00 for final drive, 3:06:30 for final 2 minutes.
Its not just about the last play (which I think was poorly handled). LSU on the 35 runs 4 plays in the final 1:51. I would love to hear arguments for how this is efficient. If the Byrd catch doesn't happen, David is in a much tougher FG position than he should have been in.
-07 Auburn* (won anyway)
-09 Georgia (blew a chance at FG at end of 1st half)
-09 Ole Miss (one of the most infamous clock management fiascos by a coach, likely cost LSU the game)
-10 Tennessee (honestly, even worse than Ole Miss. Sent a whole new personnel group onto the field while time was running down, confused Tennessee so badly they had 13 on the field, hilarious to watch in retrospect)
-14 Auburn (didn't matter in terms of outcome but an egregious mistake).
I'm sure I'm missing a few.
*07 Auburn: I realize some people have decided that he handled the clock well that game. He didn't. Here is the full game:
LINK
Go to 3:02:00 for final drive, 3:06:30 for final 2 minutes.
Its not just about the last play (which I think was poorly handled). LSU on the 35 runs 4 plays in the final 1:51. I would love to hear arguments for how this is efficient. If the Byrd catch doesn't happen, David is in a much tougher FG position than he should have been in.
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:16 am to emmanuellewis
He needs Ritalin
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:25 am to jtran1988
Only getting one play off in the closing seconds and getting zip for points on that last first half drive didn't look good. This is a major issue that just won't go away.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:28 am to jimmy the leg
Does he not have the other coaches hollering in the headsets to call a time out?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:30 am to TigerGman
Didnt see the last 2 mins of first half half. Can someone tell me what happened basically?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:32 am to jtran1988
Our inability to get a FG before half is sticking out as the worst thing about last night. Yeah, we were putrid on offense and defense. It goes without saying that our coaches did a poor job on both sides of the ball, and the players didn't show up.
All that being said, it is inexcusable to not call a timeout before the end of the half. You can't put that on Harris in his first start; that falls squarely on Les. That play will be lost in the shuffle because of all the glaring schematic, player and coaching issues, but it's completely unacceptable. He's been here 10 years and makes 4.3 million, yet he STILL can't manage the clock in situations where the decision that needs to be made is crystal clear
All that being said, it is inexcusable to not call a timeout before the end of the half. You can't put that on Harris in his first start; that falls squarely on Les. That play will be lost in the shuffle because of all the glaring schematic, player and coaching issues, but it's completely unacceptable. He's been here 10 years and makes 4.3 million, yet he STILL can't manage the clock in situations where the decision that needs to be made is crystal clear
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:36 am to Double Oh
quote:
Didnt see the last 2 mins of first half half. Can someone tell me what happened basically?
LSU completed a long pass to around the 10 with .10 seconds to go. They had a timeout. Instead of calling the timeout, taking a shot, then kicking the FG, 7 seconds ran off the clock and Harris snapped the ball with :03, threw a fade to the end zone and time ran out.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:41 am to AlexLSU
quote:
it is inexcusable to not call a timeout before the end of the half. You can't put that on Harris in his first start; that falls squarely on Les. That play will be lost in the shuffle because of all the glaring schematic, player and coaching issues, but it's completely unacceptable. He's been here 10 years and makes 4.3 million, yet he STILL can't manage the clock in situations where the decision that needs to be made is crystal clear
There is no other logical alternative to taking the timeout there, with Harris or anyone else at QB. Best case scenario is you get everyone lined up properly by the time the clock starts and clock it with the time at :08 (everything would have to go incredibly well for this to happen). Then, you should be throwing to the end zone anyway before kicking the FG. The odds of needing that TO are very low taking that course.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:41 am to emmanuellewis
I'd have preferred a touchdown at that time but a field goal would have worked as well. A clusterfrick...I'll pass on those thank you very much.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:47 am to jimmy the leg
someone please explain wat happened?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:52 am to emmanuellewis
I always considered the 2007 TD pass against Auburn to be yet another Miles time management screwup that happened to go right.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:52 am to Double Oh
That was bad, probably will go unnoticed with how the game played out.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:54 am to NotRight37
i quit counting after tennessee
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:55 am to emmanuellewis
It's a recurring issue and it really is unacceptable.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:58 am to emmanuellewis
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*07 Auburn: I realize some people have decided that he handled the clock well that game. He didn't. Here is the full game:
Not going for 2 was idiotic also. Still could have lost with a kick return. Being up 5 or 6 didn't matter.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:58 am to emmanuellewis
last year i listed every game since 2005 where he has cost us with bad player management and clock management. thread got buried and I forgot to bookmark.
too many examples to list where his teams on the field discipline and lack of preparation have cost us. hell just watch the games. it's all there for you to see if you are intellectually honest with yourself.
too many examples to list where his teams on the field discipline and lack of preparation have cost us. hell just watch the games. it's all there for you to see if you are intellectually honest with yourself.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:59 am to emmanuellewis
You are an idiot, if you think clock management beat us!!!!! Hahahah!!! We are just not that good yet. Simply put... Quit blaming Les... Why don't you blame the system for allowing all the under classmen to leave for the draft? You are all so stupid who blame clock management and Les. I bet you couldn't do better. I et you never coached before. Shut up!!!!
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:59 am to Double Oh
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Didnt see the last 2 mins of first half half. Can someone tell me what happened basically?
Harris had a big scramble, like 30 or so yds, down to the AU 25. he gets up looking like he's gonna clock it, but instead runs a play from the gun. incomplete pass, half ends, we have a timeout left and wasted a scoring opp.
Harris said the thinking in running the play rather than call the TO was because we didn't want them to get aligned. Les said some gibberish about getting 2 plays off. Todd Blackledge was incredulous at what he just saw.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:07 am to Erin Go Bragh
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I always considered the 2007 TD pass against Auburn to be yet another Miles time management screwup that happened to go right.
that's just it for the crowd here that does not know football and only looks at the W or L in the morning paper. They do not understand he has made tons of mistakes that he has gotten away with due to superior talent. it's why he has had so many ugly wins. he has been outcoached in wins as well. not just losses.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:11 am to Fat Bastard
Don't forget the Ole Miss loss last year when he had a timeout left and just let them run :30 off the clock before they attempted their last second FG.
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