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re: Miles Comparison
Posted on 11/20/09 at 4:18 pm to DeltaDoc
Posted on 11/20/09 at 4:18 pm to DeltaDoc
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Was it luck of the draw last year that we had the worst defense in the SEC?
Perhaps that Malveto incident says more about Miles than you care to gleam.
- He knew the season was lost and his replacement of Pellini backfired
- He did not fire his DCs to appease the vocal fan-base. He allowed them to find employment with dignity.
- He also found a DC that fans had listed as a good DC before his hire
You might notice a similar pattern this year
- Fans thought that 'mad hatter' should rant and rave about refs. But no one would forgive Les if he berates refs and he gets a bad call at Ole Miss or against Arky. He realizes that refs still call plays and he does not have the luxury that Kiffin (first year), Meyer (NC coach) have. He made his point in private and wants a better call.
- Les was supposed to have been a goat when Janzen Jackson switched allegiances and chose UT.
Sure it is the luck of the draw.If Janzen Jackson had signed with LSU this recruiting season, Les would have had great numbers in April. Today he might have looked foolish. On this one he drew a better card.
When you draw a joker from the pack, it may not always be good. It may not fit the rest of the cards in your hand.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 4:21 pm to DeltaDoc
Well, for the record, other than Saban, none of these guys are ever mentioned for other jobs often, with the exception of N.D. (Meyer's self confessed dream job). Let's take a look:
Brown --- not connected to other jobs. Quite clear that he is going to retire at UT, having already named a successor.
Miles --- connected briefly to the UW job last year. It made no sense and was likely false. Other than UM, there are very few colleges that can afford him. They'd have to pony up almost $4 mil.
Carroll --- never connected to another college job, past as NFL coach gets him mentioned there and has gotten him interviews in the past.
Saban --- debacles at LSU-Miami and Miami-Ala have him connected with every job, even H.S. jobs. Seriously, no true connections to college jobs since he took the UA job. He is mentioned in connection with ND but that is probably because of his past and what ND can pay and not yet reflective of his interest.
Meyer --- Connected with N.D., his self-confessed dream job, no mentions for NFL or other college jobs. Probably never will be mentioned for the NFL after the Spurrier mess in Washington.
Stoops --- for some reason he is mentioned for other jobs the most --- Dallas Cowboys a few years back, N.D. and a few others --- may have something to do with the small media market in Norman. Otherwise, with his salary and success it makes no sense.
Other coaches of note with no recent mentions for other jobs
Joe Paterno --- no mentions in 20+ years
Bobby Bowden --- no mentions in 20+ years
Jim Tressel --- none I can remember since OU
Bill Belichek --- maybe that call last week cost him new jobs
Does that mean that these men (at least, in their prime, as to Bowden) couldn't coach?
Question answered?
Brown --- not connected to other jobs. Quite clear that he is going to retire at UT, having already named a successor.
Miles --- connected briefly to the UW job last year. It made no sense and was likely false. Other than UM, there are very few colleges that can afford him. They'd have to pony up almost $4 mil.
Carroll --- never connected to another college job, past as NFL coach gets him mentioned there and has gotten him interviews in the past.
Saban --- debacles at LSU-Miami and Miami-Ala have him connected with every job, even H.S. jobs. Seriously, no true connections to college jobs since he took the UA job. He is mentioned in connection with ND but that is probably because of his past and what ND can pay and not yet reflective of his interest.
Meyer --- Connected with N.D., his self-confessed dream job, no mentions for NFL or other college jobs. Probably never will be mentioned for the NFL after the Spurrier mess in Washington.
Stoops --- for some reason he is mentioned for other jobs the most --- Dallas Cowboys a few years back, N.D. and a few others --- may have something to do with the small media market in Norman. Otherwise, with his salary and success it makes no sense.
Other coaches of note with no recent mentions for other jobs
Joe Paterno --- no mentions in 20+ years
Bobby Bowden --- no mentions in 20+ years
Jim Tressel --- none I can remember since OU
Bill Belichek --- maybe that call last week cost him new jobs
Does that mean that these men (at least, in their prime, as to Bowden) couldn't coach?
Question answered?
This post was edited on 11/20/09 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 11/20/09 at 5:03 pm to Mindenfan
quote:
I'm not sure why anyone has to compare Miles to Mack Brown or any other coach.
College geeks will be geeks.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 2:06 pm to kgcTigerFan
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I honestly can't say what my "breaking point" would be until I get there, and I'm nowhere near there yet.
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Why don't you wait to see what the Tigers do in their last 3 games (OM, ARK and the bowl game) before declaring this year another failure?
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They have no patience, regardless of the circumstances, and refuse the reasonable request to give Les Miles the time he deserves to show that he can return LSU to the kind of form that won the SEC and National championships of 2007.
Well, are you at the breaking point yet? Please explain kgcTigerfan (and others in this thread) how to defend your boy Miles now?
Miles is (1) an idiot as evidenced by this weekend; (2) in the process of ruining a once elite program; (3) a liar; and (4) a dead man walking from a coaching perspective. Luck and personnel talent propelled the man for the better part of three years in one form or another. He has shown an inability to develope talent now and complete incomptence.
You are a complete moron if you still attempt to defend the man.
I recognize he is fire proof for the time being and that truly saddens me. The only thing we can do is hope he has the balls to switch OCs and pray that he hires an OC that has a clue in the world as to what is going on. At that point, Miles needs to get out of the way and let men who are capable run the program.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 3:08 pm to TigerWoody
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The delta cockroach has crawled back from self-imposed hiding after LSU beat Auburn. Guess it was just a matter of time. All we needed was just one loss or weak performance to crawl out in the open when his baseless musings posed as fact were thrown back out again. Of course he is not alone as there are a few of his buddies on here who join him in attempts to lure others to their miserable mindset that must undoubtedly be a joy to be around.
Where are you Tigerwoody? What are you true feelings now? I am not trying to flame, I would really like to know. You may still support the man, the legend Les Miles. Tell me why.
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:21 am to DeltaDoc
I have a confession to make. I started this thread last week and received a ton of flack over it. I compared Zook to Miles. Ron Zook, I herein apologize for such a comparison.
As to all whom bashed me without hesitation, please show your face and tell me your honest feelings about Miles now. I am not trying to say I told you so, I really want to know your honest reaction and feelins. Thanks
As to all whom bashed me without hesitation, please show your face and tell me your honest feelings about Miles now. I am not trying to say I told you so, I really want to know your honest reaction and feelins. Thanks
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:37 am to Mike Linebacker
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This team is loaded with young talent and will be a force to be reckoned with in 2010 and 2011. Miles deserves the credit for that. Saban built the program and Miles took over. Recruiting as well if not better than Saban. He's represented the university with class and dignity and won on the football field. By any definition, he's having great success. Except for this pathetic fanbase who inexplicably demands perfection.
we all know that Saban put the fence up around Lousiana and wouldn't let top guys get out. Miles stepped in and kept that up but has lost some top recruits over the years (Joe McKnight and Janzen Jackson) but it's not Miles who is recruiting these guys, it's his staff. RB Coach Larry Porter has been the recruiter of the year the last 2 years.
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