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re: MILES - "Jarrett Lee has the edge on Mettenberger for the #2 spot"
Posted on 4/3/11 at 5:54 pm to MOT
Posted on 4/3/11 at 5:54 pm to MOT
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So...are you going to go on record and officially say experience and versatility should not carry a lot of weight when determining a starting QB,
Not necessarily. Particularly when you look at the two QB's in question, JJ and Lee. Every situation is unique to coaching preferences.
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or are you just going to continue repeating it ad nauseum under the guise of "just pointing out that's what Miles likes to do"?
It's painfully obvious this is what Miles likes to do, he has stated such and yet folks who agree with it get bashed "ad nauseum" for stating it.
JJ is Miles QB, period.
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 5:57 pm to diehardfan
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In other words, Lee has had more time in Miles' offensive system than Mett.
Lee has been here how many years?
Mett has been here how many years?
Your mathematics ability is astoundng.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:02 pm to Uncommon Cents
I assumed you wouldn't understand.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Depends. Arbitrarily? No. Every coach has different criteria however.
People need to come to the conclusion that Miles is one of those coaches though.
one of those coaches that does what? Just plays upperclassmen because they are upperclassmen?
The implication you and others are making is that Les Miles will start Jefferson because he is Les' guy ore because he is a senior and not because he is the best QB at LSU. That is stupid and if you were the one spaying attention you'd see its not true. He will play the best players. I know its shocking for some people to understand that 21-22 year olds are many times better than 18-19 year old HS studs. But the new guys are the unknown. So its easy to say they will be better. But we don't really know. If Jefferson starts it will be because he is the best QB, not because he is a Sr.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:12 pm to GFunk
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I really find it enjoyable when people use defensive players to talk about how Miles plays Freshman
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I've denigrated and downgraded, belittled and made fun of Studrawa, but I can tell you this...He doesn't get the final say so on who plays & who goes in for injuries (hint hint) when it comes to the offensive line.
So....who is making the call to start the young sophomore Faulk over the 5th year senior Shaw at one of the tackle spots? I can only assume from your post Miles is making that call. But I know this guy on another board that would disagree with you, because he says Miles only plays the senior/more experienced player on offense.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:19 pm to H-Town Tiger
Oh come on... Mettenberger was leading Murray in their battle last spring, and out shined him in the spring game without having AJ Green to throw too. Murray is everyone's preseason first team sec this year. Jefferson would be on everyone's 12th team all SEC or probably behind back ups. To have Jefferson ahead of him is pathetic.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:20 pm to TheTruthPolice
Mettenberger had a better Spring game than Murray.
But if he was leading Murray leading into it, why didn't he take any snaps with the starters in the Spring game?
But if he was leading Murray leading into it, why didn't he take any snaps with the starters in the Spring game?
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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But we don't really know. If Jefferson starts it will be because he is the best QB, not because he is a Sr.
Your guess is as good as mine. Based on what Miles has said, experience and the ability to run outweigh pure passing ability. It's my guess that JJ is Miles choice for QB and he is being groomed to be just that.
But if you want to continue to insult, feel free. Try to have an adult conversation.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
Who do you expect to start against Oregon, and why? Honestly.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Your guess is as good as mine. Based on what Miles has said, experience and the ability to run outweigh pure passing ability. It's my guess that JJ is Miles choice for QB and he is being groomed to be just that.
What you don't seem to understand is that nobody is disagreeing with you about Miles factoring in experience and ability to run. What some people are saying is that those are not the only things he will take into account, but those things do also play a part in determining who the "best" QB is.
You seem to be under the impression that the ability to pass = best QB....and that other factors (experience and versatility) will be reasons that will lead to Miles starting Jefferson instead of the "best" QB.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Based on what Miles has said, experience and the ability to run outweigh pure passing ability
I don't see where he said that about the ability to run, but what is "pure passing ability"? Sorry if you find that question insulting, but simply having a better arm does not make someone a better QB. And seeing as none of us have been at all the practices and scrimmages, I don't see how anyone can say Meth is a better "pure passer" at this point in time. Some times people get better at things by doing them more often, that's called experience. Its not a negative. Some keep insisting that Miles only plays older players rather than the best players. That is simply not true. Who ever starts at QB will be the guy that has shown the coaches in practice that he is the best. If he were just going with Jefferson, then why didn't he flat out say, there is no QB competition, JJ is the starter, period.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:30 pm to MOT
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You seem to be under the impression that the ability to pass = best QB....and that other factors (experience and versatility) will be reasons that will lead to Miles starting Jefferson instead of the "best" QB.
Not under that impression at all, you are just making that up. I don't know if Mett. is any better than the two QB's who played last year, that isn't my point.
You are assuming things that are not true.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Who ever starts at QB will be the guy that has shown the coaches in practice that he is the best.
I agree.
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If he were just going with Jefferson, then why didn't he flat out say, there is no QB competition, JJ is the starter, period.
I think he has alluded to this already. Read previous statements. JJ's "versatility" is something Miles values over the other QB's and give him an advantage.
This post was edited on 4/3/11 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not under that impression at all, you are just making that up. I don't know if Mett. is any better than the two QB's who played last year, that isn't my point.
You are assuming things that are not true.
Maybe I misinterpreted you, my mistake. But I'm sure you can understand why, since every time someone responds to you saying "Miles will play the best QB" your reply centers around Miles playing "the more experienced, versatile QB".
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:38 pm to ForeLSU
Anyone who was expecting anything different is kidding themselves.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Who do you expect to start against Oregon, and why? Honestly.
To me its pointless question until they have summer camp, but I'd expect Jefferson to start at this point, because he is probably the best option we have right now. I could be wrong but I don't think Newton was named the starter until the summer or at least not until the end of spring last year and he was special.
Jefferson was terrible most of last year, but that doesn't mean Krags coaching can't help him improve. Dennis Dixon was battling Brady Leaf for time at Oregon in 2006, in 2007 he was a Heisman candidate before getting hurt.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:41 pm to MOT
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Maybe I misinterpreted you, my mistake. But I'm sure you can understand why, since every time someone responds to you saying "Miles will play the best QB" your reply centers around Miles playing "the more experienced, versatile QB".
Reading comp. I have stated this in many threads and never have waivered. People read into a simple statement what they want to.
Legs and experience will give JJ an edge over someone who may be a better passing QB. Miles has alluded to this and JJ will most likely start. It's obvious that Miles likes JJ to run the plays he wants to run, and not Mettenberger or Lee.
This gent is stating the same thing and yet you folks have yet to jump on him. Feel freel.
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Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:42 pm to H-Town Tiger
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but I'd expect Jefferson to start at this point, because he is probably the best option we have right now.
Well shite, you agree with me. Why the hell have you been arguing?? God damn.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:47 pm to Raparooot
This shouldn't be a suprise.
Lee has been in the system for 3 years. He deserves the spot.
That being said, by the end of next season look for Mett to get quite a few snaps in the last few games.
Posted on 4/3/11 at 6:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yay! We get to argue about quarterbacks for another 5 months before the season ever starts! Then another 4 months during the season!
The best thing about Mett is that 9 months from now the discussions over who our quarterback should be will mercifully come to an abrupt halt.
The best thing about Mett is that 9 months from now the discussions over who our quarterback should be will mercifully come to an abrupt halt.
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