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re: Mettenberger > Bridgewater
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:16 pm to TigersforEver
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:16 pm to TigersforEver
Luck is also a once in a decade type of QB. Just take time to remember who actually started an NFL game last year [McGloin,Ponder,Cassell,Keenum,G.Smith & Gabbert]
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:16 pm to Ton Chou
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why can't lsu get wide open receivers on a consistent basis like that?
Better Defenses?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:19 pm to JBeam
He's definitely better than those guys, and is most likely a day one starter. But an impact player and that next piece to get the Texans over the hump? I don't know about that. I'm honestly just wondering what you think...today who is better/ would you rather start, Schaub or Bridgewater?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:20 pm to Ton Chou
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think a better question would be why can't lsu get wide open receivers on a consistent basis like that? You'd think with the rushing capability we've had that would be more frequent but its not.
been like that for a while now. With the way teams stack the line against us you would think that wouldn't be the case. I thought that was going to change when Cam came on board, but it really hasn't.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:27 pm to PurpleDrank18
Bridgewater is good and accurate. The problem I see is how far can he go. I think Mett has the better upside. Yeah Wilson won the super bowl, But he's not better than manning and never will be, same as kapernick. Those teams live or die by defense. With a semblence of an oline and a good Oc, was miles better.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:27 pm to boxcar willie
That's what I'm saying. Been putting out nfl receivers but they've been below average at getting good separation for years. On the flip side, they make great plays to get the ball along with good yac but you swear we play the Seahawks secondary every week.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:35 pm to PurpleDrank18
I'd take my chances with Bridgewater if the Texans can surround him with the right pieces. Schaub is shellshocked imo.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:37 pm to TigersforEver
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Am I wrong to think this and letting my purple and gold shades cloud my vision or do I have a legitimate argument here?
Yes, you are wrong and wearing those shades like a true LSU fan (not a bad thing BTW).
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Fair point, but like I said, I would think that has to do with the disparity in mobility between the two. Wouldn't you?
No, mobility doesn't make composure. Look at many of the top QBs in the NFL. They lack in the mobility area.
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No you're definitely on to something. Only time will tell, but I think Mett has the most upside of any QB in this class. Bridgewater is a little bit overrated, and JFF is the wild card.
I think Bortles is the bust in this class. Seriously reminds me of Blaine Gabbert.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:40 pm to Ton Chou
Well, we found out yesterday why Jarvis doesn't get good separation, but I would say Beckham always had good separation. It's just that him and Mettenberger could never get on the same page with the long ball, sure they connected sometimes, but most time the ball was either overthrown or underthrown.
but Landry was so good at catching he didn't need much separation. Mettenbereger needs to get better at reading and making fast decisions to get rid of the ball at the pro level otherwise he'll be just a sack machine with his inability to move. That's what Cam had him workin on at the start of the season. Dropping back shorter and faster and makin quick decisions, but it tailed off towards the end of the season.
but Landry was so good at catching he didn't need much separation. Mettenbereger needs to get better at reading and making fast decisions to get rid of the ball at the pro level otherwise he'll be just a sack machine with his inability to move. That's what Cam had him workin on at the start of the season. Dropping back shorter and faster and makin quick decisions, but it tailed off towards the end of the season.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:46 pm to Noplacelikehome
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Yes, you are wrong
And why, may I ask
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No, mobility doesn't make composure. Look at many of the top QBs in the NFL. They lack in the mobility area.
Even some of the best QBs get flustered if the protection is shoddy at times -- see Drew Brees 2013. I would think knowing I can escape a collapsing pocket and extend a play would give me better composure than knowing when the pocket breaks big time I'm a standing statue and about to go down if I don't get rid of it.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 10:50 pm to PurpleDrank18
None of the QBs in this class are day 1 starters. Bortles has the highest ceiling of all, but he could also be a big bust.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:14 pm to PurpleDrank18
everybody has the mobility "thing" on Zach
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:15 pm to Bearded Angler
even the NFL QB's that are generally thought of as not being mobile are way more athletic and mobile than Mett.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:24 pm to boxcar willie
All of it is speculation. Any QB that goes to the wrong situation with won't succeed and will be labeled a bust.
Tom Brady is the only statue in the NFL that makes it a immobility a non-factor. Mett is a statue and he will not last if he doesn't go to a team with solidified line. Bridgewater is the better QB right now. Take off the P & G glasses.
I like Mett and I hope he lives up to his potential, but I would take Bortles if we're talking about upside.
Tom Brady is the only statue in the NFL that makes it a immobility a non-factor. Mett is a statue and he will not last if he doesn't go to a team with solidified line. Bridgewater is the better QB right now. Take off the P & G glasses.
I like Mett and I hope he lives up to his potential, but I would take Bortles if we're talking about upside.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:34 pm to LuzianaFootball
Do the Manning's qualify as statues as well?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:34 pm to PurpleDrank18
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I have no doubt had Cam Cameron come a year earlier and no knee injury he'd be talked about right now as a top 10-15 pick if not better.
no
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:36 pm to JBeam
quote:They already have the right pieces although I don't know how long or how much Andre Johnson has in the tank. But they have the kid from Clemson at the other wideout and a short time ago they had some athletic pass catching TE's I saw in a pre season game against the Saints two season ago. They have one of the top young RB's in the game. They just need a QB because Schaub has regressed like you said and is done.
I'd take my chances with Bridgewater if the Texans can surround him with the right pieces.
If I was GM there I would take Clowney in the first and come back and get Bridgewater in the second because none of these QB's are first round material, but Bridgewater is better than whatyamacall him with the Jets. He's worthy of a second.
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:14 am to tubucoco
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Also everybody wants to go goo-goo-ga-ga over Bridgewaters accuracy...one thing that stuck out to me when watching him is that he was constantly throwing to wide open WR who had time and space to adjust properly to the ball, making the throw seem better. I rarely saw him have to throw it into tight windows like we've constantly seen Mett do (one play that comes to mind was the throw to Jarvis this year in the A&M game over the middle of the field)
Let me state dat I am proud of what Mett has done and how much he has improved, but Mett and Bridgewater are ranked fairly Mett proved in the ole miss game that he still has problems with deep ball accuracy but he does have a cannon Bridgewater is a great kid who has taken UL to the next level his performance against UF was amazing and during his time at UL he has garnered some Heisman talk Mett is good but u r a little bias in your assumption that Mett is better than Bridgewater
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 12:15 am
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:26 am to LSU_Saints_Hornets
You must hate periods
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:32 am to PurpleDrank18
In 5 years from now, everyone will look back and say Mett was the best QB in this draft.
The more I see and hear about the other QBs the more confident I feel about that statement. Has the best arm by far. Has played in an NFL offensive system, coached by a well known nfl guy in Cameron.
He might not be a starter until his 2nd year or so. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
He's got just a a good a chance to be great as Manziel, Bridgewater, etc. At best, I see Bridgewater as a solid nfl QB. I don't think he will ever be an elite QB. Manziel has something going for him. No doubt about that. But he also could flop. Mett, at his best, could be 1 of the better qbs in the league. And I don't think he's as big a risk as a guy like Manziel. Mett has an elite arm, even with nfl standards. He can make every throw in the book. The knock on Manziel and Bridgewater is that they only have average arms. Bridgewater is very accurate though. But can't throw the deep ball like Mett can.
If he didn't tear his ACL, you would hear his name being talked about as a riser and a potential top 10 pick right about now.
The more I see and hear about the other QBs the more confident I feel about that statement. Has the best arm by far. Has played in an NFL offensive system, coached by a well known nfl guy in Cameron.
He might not be a starter until his 2nd year or so. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
He's got just a a good a chance to be great as Manziel, Bridgewater, etc. At best, I see Bridgewater as a solid nfl QB. I don't think he will ever be an elite QB. Manziel has something going for him. No doubt about that. But he also could flop. Mett, at his best, could be 1 of the better qbs in the league. And I don't think he's as big a risk as a guy like Manziel. Mett has an elite arm, even with nfl standards. He can make every throw in the book. The knock on Manziel and Bridgewater is that they only have average arms. Bridgewater is very accurate though. But can't throw the deep ball like Mett can.
If he didn't tear his ACL, you would hear his name being talked about as a riser and a potential top 10 pick right about now.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 12:39 am
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